SonyA580 wrote:
Are you talking about photos from you iPhone? I've heard about Apples "RAW" files but never knew anyone who actually used them. Are they truly "RAW" files? What type of file do you see downloaded on your computer, i.e., .jpeg., tiff, ????
The OP did not mention a camera or method of raw image capture... He only mentioned editing raw images in Apple Photos.
Charlie7 wrote:
First post and confused. I have been shooting photos in RAW and uploading them into Photos on my Mac for quite awhile. I use photo's processing tools and the photos look good. What am I missing about processing RAW photos in a separate program before post processing?
You aren't missing a thing Charlie. Keep doing what you are doing and don't look back. Shooting and processing raw isn't for everyone.
Thank you for all the information. It is an extensive science.
Have any of you used Photos? The files are raw and I can change white balance. I can also adjust light, color, convert to black and white, adjust RGB levels, selective color adjustment, noise reduction, sharpen and it has RGB curves adjustment. With all that, I still have the option to use affinity.
When I need to print, or post a photo, I export to JPEG and adjust file size and quality.
jeep_daddy wrote:
You aren't missing a thing Charlie. Keep doing what you are doing and don't look back. Shooting and processing raw isn't for everyone.
The point, I think, is that he actually IS shooting and processing in raw format, just not terribly effectively using Photos software. And yes, if the OP's comfy with that, more power to him. Perhaps as he learns more about what a good software can do for his images, then maybe he'll move forward....
Thank you burkphoto. Your links are very helpful. You conclusion is what I thought, but was afraid I was missing something. No longer confused.
Jeep daddy, I have been shooting and processing raw for many years.
mrjcall, Obviously you have not used Photos software. I have used "good software"; PSE, Lightroom and Affinity. IPhotos software is very "effective".
first of all you have to process RAW Files because they load dark and a little off on vibrance and color. Try it by shooting both RAW and JPEG as a backup and look at the difference. RAW keeps all the data of the original picture. JPEG doesn't and cannot be change and enhance as a RAW file can. So if you are a beginner than stick with JPEG. If you are a seasoned photographer than you should be shooting in RAW already.
Thanks, troughrhettseyes. As I said I have been shooting raw for many years. My raw files do not "load Dark". I make a few adjustments in Photos edit. The original raw file is always there. I export to JPEG for printing, or posting.
what would you like to accomplish that is not available to you. The Adobe RAW converter permits many adjustments and corrections (density, color of light, saturation, sharpening, cropping, image size, image format, white balance, light color, bit depth, and more before dumping the TIFF in PS and I assume LR. Is there something you are missing?
With all due respect, Ron Dial, you are wrong. In Photos, the files are raw and I can change white balance. I can also adjust light, color, convert to black and white, adjust RGB levels, selective color adjustment, noise reduction, sharpen and it has RGB curves adjustment. With all that, I still have the option to use Affinity. Adobe is not the only game in town.
Didn't mean to suggest that ADOBE was the only game in town, just that there are many things you can do while the RAW image is being converted.
Thanks, but I always shoot, edit and save raw files. No need to edit JPEG file. I export JPEG files to print, or re-size for posting.
f8lee wrote:
Think of a digital image as a matrix of rows and columns, where an array of 6000 by 4000 would yield 24 million "dots" or pixels (picture elements). An image file consists of pixels that have clearly specified colors in terms of Red, Green and Blue values (RGB). So, for each pixel of an image file, there is a precise RGB value.
Not quite correct. The ONLY information that is captured by an individual pixel is the LUMINANCE information, the number of photons captured; it is ONLY the process of demosaicing that adds the R,G,or B information, and, ONLY because the algorithms used know which color filter is associated with which individual pixel. You also forgot to mention that the Green "Filters" are twice as common as the Red or Blue filter populations (note that the human eye is MUCH more sensitive, about twice as sensitive, to green as it is to the red and blue portions of the visible spectrum). Mostly, all this is without exception.
If we do include Sigma's (Foveon) sensors, now up to the third generation, then, and only then, does each pixel contain the complete RGB and Luminance information in a single pixel value, do to the fact that each of the pixels have all three filters "built into" them (via the significance that semiconductors have the ability to filter colors by the depth within the sensors, and the three sensors are "stacked" at different/separate depths). Polaroid was actually the first to use this type of sensor, but there were many, many problems with the "first edition", and they never proceeded any further with their development efforts (they used several of the Phillips patents from the late 60's and early70's).
BTW: I was a member of that group at Phillips Laboratories (in Briarcliff Manor, NY) that "invented"
the silicon vidicon in the mid-late 60's, so I know of what I speak (yes, I'm that old, LoL).
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