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Apr 24, 2018 10:18:56   #
gwilliams6
 
With the release of the Sony A7III which beats the specs and performance of the D750, at the same price, It IS a certainty that Nikon will release an upgrade to the D750 within this next 12 months. I would bet on it. So if you want to jump up to the D800 series now ,that would be a great move, as that will get you their higher-end features for your astrophotography. Cheers

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Apr 24, 2018 11:07:15   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Mark Bski wrote:
Ive been enjoying astrophotography and starscapes a great deal. I've read here and elsewhere the Nikon D750 is great in low light and will considerable outperform my D7200. My big trepidation in upgrading to the D750 is the body has been nearly four years ago, an eternity in electronics. I don't want to buy a D750 and have the D760 released a week later.


Join the crowd: got an A7R2 just before the A7R3. Saved a few bucks but, urrgh!😠

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Apr 24, 2018 11:25:26   #
throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX
 
Coming this year the D-760. The D750 had too many shutter problems I mean big time problems. How about they recalled it, said it was fixed, recalled it again, said it was fixed, then recalled it again. All about the same problem...the shutter. Also since the D500 and D850 came out it is now a dinosaur. So no don't buy the D750. For less than $1600 you can buy a D500 like I did and get the speed and focus control of a D5. If you think you want to go to full frame take a look at how many DX lens you have and go buy a D500. If you want a full frame picture just back up a little and surprise it's pretty much the same picture for half the price. And for sports action and wildlife the D500 is the only way to go because of the 1.5 crop factor with the highest pixel pitch around. So you can crop even more!

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Apr 24, 2018 12:10:24   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
throughrhettseyes wrote:
If you want a full frame picture just back up a little ......


The OP is talkingg about astro photography. How many millions of miles should he back up? Sheesh!

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Apr 24, 2018 13:35:29   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
It's really up to you...personally, I am holding off on a FF body, to see when/if the mythical D760 comes out - don't want an AA filter on my sensor (a FF version of the D7200 doesn't exist yet, if you think about it, hopefully the 760 maybe). For me it will be either a D760, D850 or D810 refurb.... later this year or summer. I like that the crop mode of the D850 is close to the D500 in resolution, and other crop modes.

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Apr 24, 2018 14:47:52   #
WayneL Loc: Baltimore Md
 
Mark Bski wrote:
Ive been enjoying astrophotography and starscapes a great deal. I've read here and elsewhere the Nikon D750 is great in low light and will considerable outperform my D7200. My big trepidation in upgrading to the D750 is the body has been nearly four years ago, an eternity in electronics. I don't want to buy a D750 and have the D760 released a week later.

I had the D750 with the shutter problem, got it fixed and sold it. I'm moving back to FF after a 2 year absence but I will get a Pentax K1 II. The D850 looks great but to much money for me, so the Pentax will suite me just fine.

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Apr 24, 2018 22:29:58   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Mark Bski wrote:
Ive been enjoying astrophotography and starscapes a great deal. I've read here and elsewhere the Nikon D750 is great in low light and will considerable outperform my D7200. My big trepidation in upgrading to the D750 is the body has been nearly four years ago, an eternity in electronics. I don't want to buy a D750 and have the D760 released a week later.


I suggest you wait for the D760 because there is always a chance the scenario you describe could happen.

By the way I think that buying a new car is also hard because there is always a new one a year later, and computers, forget it they are obsolete going out the door. And what about phones, OMG, there is a real conundrum.

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Apr 27, 2018 01:53:12   #
pmackd Loc: Alameda CA
 
There are only two strong reasons to prefer a D750 over D7200 or D500. One is better low light performance in terms of noise, particularly in the ISO range 200-3200 where you might actually take lots of pictures. No matter what you have heard, neither the D500 nor any crop sensor camera compares to full frame. You will get cleaner frames with the D750 and it is not a small difference. This is particularly important for interiors such as weddings and performances or sports where reach is not an issue. To make up for the crop sensor reach advantage you would need a fast (f2.8 or f4) tele lens with longer focal length and those are expensive. So ask yourself, are these situations important in your photography?

The other reason is for ease in isolating subject from background, particularly in portraits. Full frame cameras make that easier, without buying lenses with very wide apertures, such as a costly 85mm f1.4. Again we are talking about a big difference, not a small one.

The D750, like nearly all 24 Mp full frame cameras has an AA filter, which does slightly degrade resolution of fine details. Unlike the two differences I mentioned above, this one is small. If you don't look for it by testing you'd probably never notice it. I shoot D7100, D500 and D750 and make many prints up to 20 x 30. In decent light, the IQ from these cameras is essentially the same.

If and when Nikon comes out with a D760, how would it be an upgrade from D750? 24Mp with no AA filter? Doubtful, as Nikon included the AA filter because their engineers believed the liklihood of artifacts (aliasing) was too great with that pixel size. (Canon did the same with their comparable DSLRs as did Sony) 36 MP no AA filter? Maybe, but would cannibalize D810. All guesswork at this point.

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Apr 27, 2018 09:51:10   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
pmackd wrote:
There are only two strong reasons to prefer a D750 over D7200 or D500. One is better low light performance in terms of noise, particularly in the ISO range 200-3200 where you might actually take lots of pictures. No matter what you have heard, neither the D500 nor any crop sensor camera compares to full frame. You will get cleaner frames with the D750 and it is not a small difference. This is particularly important for interiors such as weddings and performances or sports where reach is not an issue. To make up for the crop sensor reach advantage you would need a fast (f2.8 or f4) tele lens with longer focal length and those are expensive. So ask yourself, are these situations important in your photography?

The other reason is for ease in isolating subject from background, particularly in portraits. Full frame cameras make that easier, without buying lenses with very wide apertures, such as a costly 85mm f1.4. Again we are talking about a big difference, not a small one.

The D750, like nearly all 24 Mp full frame cameras has an AA filter, which does slightly degrade resolution of fine details. Unlike the two differences I mentioned above, this one is small. If you don't look for it by testing you'd probably never notice it. I shoot D7100, D500 and D750 and make many prints up to 20 x 30. In decent light, the IQ from these cameras is essentially the same.

If and when Nikon comes out with a D760, how would it be an upgrade from D750? 24Mp with no AA filter? Doubtful, as Nikon included the AA filter because their engineers believed the liklihood of artifacts (aliasing) was too great with that pixel size. (Canon did the same with their comparable DSLRs as did Sony) 36 MP no AA filter? Maybe, but would cannibalize D810. All guesswork at this point.
There are only two strong reasons to prefer a D750... (show quote)


I have the 7200 and I can tell you the noise is insignificant (for me at least) up until 6400+... all digicams produce noise, even medium frame formats, it's a question of how the processor handles NR and how much noise you can tolerate (what is your application?). The difference between FF and APSC for the Nikons is about 1.3 stops (go to the DxO site to chart the noise this comparing the D750 to the D7200... it's interesting) For wedding and other low light photographers the difference could mean being able to shoot at ISO 10,000 or not with acceptable noise but there always will be noise at that level. For daylight or flash shooters the difference is negligible. One reason I did not pick the D750 (and will not buy it, along with D6xx, 800) is because of the AA filter - for me edge detail/ sharpness is more important than a teeny bit of imperceptible noise. I am really impressed at the shots coming out of the 7200. If you go to the D7200 page on Nikons site https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/dslr-cameras/d7200.html you will see they list a benefit of "noise-free shooting from ISO 100-25600"...well that's stretching it a bit but the results are impressive for a crop sensor.

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Dec 6, 2019 20:30:23   #
CarlG
 
Check out this site if you like astrophotography: http://robgendlerastropics.com/

He is one of the finest astrophotographers on the planet.

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Dec 6, 2019 20:37:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Luck is no substitute for hard work and having a full-frame camera.

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Dec 6, 2019 22:31:20   #
User ID
 
CHG_CANON wrote:

Luck is no substitute for hard work
and having a full-frame camera.


Must agree, and yet the reverse is
also simultaneously true. All your
hard work and investment is only
prep to ready you to catch a break
.... IF one ever comes. Catch 22
is everywhere.

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Dec 7, 2019 10:46:24   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
To get a photo of a life time, or just a great shot you need to be prepared, have knowledge of your subject, equipment and a little bit of luck. A trip to Virginia a few weeks ago with a stop at Bombay Hook N.W.R brought all three together as I was able to photograph Snow Geese from a road side while they were in a tilled corn field and just a little further up the road an eagle feeding in a creek just below the road that I was traveling on. I was at the right place at the right time and had my camera set to take the shot that I hoped to get, luck came into play that the subject was were I happened to be at the same time I was there.

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Jan 9, 2020 21:11:51   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
OddJobber wrote:
The OP is talkingg about astro photography. How many millions of miles should he back up? Sheesh!


Larry has made a very valid point. The D780 has just been announced and so what?

I realize this is probably a moot issue at this point but I recently upgraded from a D7100 to a D750 and I love both of my cameras. Whatever you choose or chose to get, learn IT to get the most out of it. A talented photographer can get a great shot out a cell phone but putting a huge hole in your bank balance will NOT guarantee better shots, whatever the gear snobs here may try to tell you.

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Jan 10, 2020 05:45:36   #
BebuLamar
 
Mike D. wrote:
Larry has made a very valid point. The D780 has just been announced and so what?

I realize this is probably a moot issue at this point but I recently upgraded from a D7100 to a D750 and I love both of my cameras. Whatever you choose or chose to get, learn IT to get the most out of it. A talented photographer can get a great shot out a cell phone but putting a huge hole in your bank balance will NOT guarantee better shots, whatever the gear snobs here may try to tell you.


The D780 has been announced and it means that if you want the D750 and didn't buy it during the fire sale for $999 you missed your chance.

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