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Apr 14, 2018 07:42:08   #
gwong1 Loc: Tampa, FL
 
According to Snopes this speech was in June, 2005, almost 13 years ago. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/richard-lamm-on-multiculturalism/

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Apr 14, 2018 07:57:19   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
It is ashamed that no one is actually addressing the real problem and the attitudes and religious philosophies behind it: the world's over-population. People imigrate to do exacly what you or I would do - to find work to support their families.

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Apr 14, 2018 08:12:10   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
The only America that would be destroyed is the white image that you dream of and that does
not exist. You give similar arguments as those prior to World Wars by German Naxis. I heard those arguments in the sixties when I lived in Alabama regarding emerging black attempts at respect and education.
I will be happy to see your America destroyed and proud to be a part of its demolition.
I will be happy to shovel the last piece of dirt on the grave of your America.

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Apr 14, 2018 08:38:21   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
What bullshit!

the same kind of speeches were given at the turn of the last century! You know when your useless forefathers got off the boat!

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Apr 14, 2018 09:12:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
Olin Bost: That was said about the Russian-German- Italian- Irish- Chinese - Jews and on and on. It time put those ideas in the trash can of history. Those ideas will destroy America, not help it.


The people you are referring to came to America legally. The other main difference is those people came to America and worked. The people presently coming to America are not here legally and they come, not to become Americans but to receive whatever freebie benefits that Liberals offer them. Big difference. Yes the people you mentioned helped America to grow. The people coming now are the total opposite, a drain on America’s finances.

Dennis

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Apr 14, 2018 09:13:45   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
sb wrote:
It is ashamed that no one is actually addressing the real problem and the attitudes and religious philosophies behind it: the world's over-population. People imigrate to do exacly what you or I would do - to find work to support their families.


Any reason they can’t come legally to do that?

Dennis

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Apr 14, 2018 09:29:03   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Retired CPO wrote:
The political correctness movement will see that Governor Lamm won't be re-elected. He just committed political suicide.


dont worry..He hasnt been Gov there for 20 years...BUT the guy was/is pretty damn sharp...

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Apr 14, 2018 09:29:38   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
ole sarg wrote:
What bullshit!

the same kind of speeches were given at the turn of the last century! You know when your useless forefathers got off the boat!


back to your mental ward..creep

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Apr 14, 2018 09:36:53   #
FrumCA
 
gwong1 wrote:
According to Snopes this speech was in June, 2005, almost 13 years ago. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/richard-lamm-on-multiculturalism/


An audio recording of Lamm’s speech from 18 October 2003 is available online.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:13:57   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
Olin Bost: That was said about the Russian-German- Italian- Irish- Chinese - Jews and on and on. It time put those ideas in the trash can of history. Those ideas will destroy America, not help it.


Times have changed but you must have you head up your ass that you will never see the light of day. Its happening in California and we see it everyday. Wake up boy before
its to late. The above people you listed wanted to become Americans but the south of the border people don't care and the Muslims want to take over.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:27:18   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
The only America that would be destroyed is the white image that you dream of and that does
not exist. You give similar arguments as those prior to World Wars by German Naxis. I heard those arguments in the sixties when I lived in Alabama regarding emerging black attempts at respect and education.
I will be happy to see your America destroyed and proud to be a part of its demolition.
I will be happy to shovel the last piece of dirt on the grave of your America.


Now that pretty much sums up the liberal plan for America. Thank you for being honest and making the liberal agenda clear to everyone.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:38:09   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
This is spot on!

I see the naysayers are up to there usual B/S.
California has fallen to multiculturalism the progressivism is at work in California it’s a lost state of affairs!

OlinBost wrote:
Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the beejeebers out of you!

We know Dick Lamm as Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America.

The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, 'If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'

'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said:

'First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country... History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'

Lamm went on:

'Second, to destroy America, invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

'Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec ' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, un-assimilated, under-educated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'

'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology...' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority.'

'My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell 'E. Pluribus Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize' America as surely as Kosovo.'

'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multi-culturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California and other states to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984.' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.'

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.
Wherever you stand, please take the time to read t... (show quote)

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Apr 14, 2018 10:40:30   #
Quinn 4
 
dennis 2146: My God! I don't if you are just dumb or do this to get people work up. 100 years ago and before people landed on America soil because their had been kick out of the their home land and have no place to go. Legally had none to do with it. Their need a place to live. To live one needs money, if signing a paper saying their are legally to get money, their would sign it. In fact their would do anything to live. Like I said before one who forget their only heritage or want to destroy it and at the same time is destroying American Heritage. Well end up with none and be come none.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:55:00   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
dennis 2146: My God! I don't if you are just dumb or do this to get people work up. 100 years ago and before people landed on America soil because their had been kick out of the their home land and have no place to go. Legally had none to do with it. Their need a place to live. To live one needs money, if signing a paper saying their are legally to get money, their would sign it. In fact their would do anything to live. Like I said before one who forget their only heritage or want to destroy it and at the same time is destroying American Heritage. Well end up with none and be come none.
dennis 2146: My God! I don't if you are just dumb ... (show quote)

As you are so fond of saying "Times have changed" there is no real way to compare the people who came here 100 years ago to those who invaid our borders today. The people of the 1800 and 1900s came here to make a better life for themselves as Americans. They came with no promise of success only hope and the will to work hard to make this country their home, as Americans. The people who come here legally seem to have the same goals, they want to be Americans. The people illegally flooding our borders are coming for a handout and have no intention of assimilating and becoming Americans. They come as so eloquently stated earlier on this forum to "be happy to see your America destroyed and proud to be a part of its demolition"

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Apr 14, 2018 10:58:10   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
John_F wrote:
Would Olin cite the reference to where this was first published. Might forward it, but need the source.


Check Snopes.com. Gov Lamm confirmed that he made this speech in 2005. BTW, Lamm is a liberal Democrat and was Governor of Colorado for three terms (12 years).

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