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Apr 13, 2018 23:21:09   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
bkyser wrote:
I have (had) 4 good commercial jobs set up for decorating local businesses with photos of local landmarks.
I was just told by one "customer" , that she found some photos she liked online, and had them printed on canvas at Kinkos!

I'm not 100% surprised that this lady didn't know that isn't how things are to be done, but really, Kinkos printing them just blows me away.

I don't want to get a bad reputation for turning in Kinkos for the printing, but I can't tell you how upset I am at losing a $5000-$7000 sale either.

If I knew for sure where she got the photos, I might be tempted to contact the owner of the photos, and tell them to stop by the business, but I don't have a clue where she got them.

Maybe I should drop it, but if they are printing someone else's work, when will they print mine?
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I was an area supervisor for Kinko's for many years and I am surprised, they used to be copyright Nazi's, now they are owned by FedEx, not sure if FedEx is lax on copyright or if you just got a poorly trained employee. Kinko's has been sued for copyright infringement many times and in the past they were very strict about it so much so that it was ridiculous, if you told them that the pic was not yours they would not print it without a signed release, even if it was one of your friend's snapshots.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:27:17   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
adamsg wrote:
The Kinko's just across the street from the university where I teach closed a couple of years back. And there was a huge Kinko's across the street from the University of Texas - now closed. the company got burned and I wonder if some stronger guidance from the top might have prevented this. Course packs made up by professors, all with a legitimate copyright clearance (fair use) for students in their classes. It was a good resource, if well managed. But, greed may have intervened.

PPA should have a work with Kinko's. As I stated earlier, unauthorized reproduction of intellectual property is theft, just like stealing money - in this case, right out of the creators' pockets.
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My wife used to have Kinko’s do her accounting teaching packets.

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Apr 14, 2018 07:48:07   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bill_de wrote:
When people upload their photos to a Walmart or other chain stores, are they required to check ownership of each image before returning prints to a customer?

I strongly believe in copyright protection, but how can it be accomplished today besides a complaint after the fact?

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Likewise Bay Photo, Adorama, or other premium photo makers. There is no way they could verify ownership. They might ask you to check a box that you own it but that isn’t going to deter deliberate copyright lawyers.

Blaming the printer is like blaming the auto manufacturer for you driving your car into someone or something.

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Apr 14, 2018 08:58:16   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
IDguy wrote:
Likewise Bay Photo, Adorama, or other premium photo makers. There is no way they could verify ownership. They might ask you to check a box that you own it but that isn’t going to deter deliberate copyright lawyers.

Blaming the printer is like blaming the auto manufacturer for you driving your car into someone or something.


Last of first paragraph was supposed to be “law breakers”. Noticed it too late to edit. 😕

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Apr 17, 2018 13:46:36   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
Bill_de wrote:
When people upload their photos to a Walmart or other chain stores, are they required to check ownership of each image before returning prints to a customer?

I strongly believe in copyright protection, but how can it be accomplished today besides a complaint after the fact?

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The times I've done it, yes, they do.

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Apr 17, 2018 13:49:28   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
IDguy wrote:
Likewise Bay Photo, Adorama, or other premium photo makers. There is no way they could verify ownership. They might ask you to check a box that you own it but that isn’t going to deter deliberate copyright lawyers.

Blaming the printer is like blaming the auto manufacturer for you driving your car into someone or something.


At least checking a box shows intent. I would think anyone with standing in the community would think twice about signing that they owned the copyright, or that it was their photo.

I do have to admit that I'm a bit disappointed in PPA, no return call or anything to follow up, yet they are always sending me stuff about how they are fighting for copyright protection.

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