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Apr 12, 2018 11:07:41   #
Larryshuman
 
I am 70 years old and have no problem carrying my 600mmF:4 G VR and a D3, D800 or D810 on it. I hang the Rain coat for the lens below the Gitzo 3541 tripod and use the rain coat bag has a shoulder pad. I can also hang a 2nd body with a 300mmF:4 AFS over my shoulder with the big lens. I'm also I am using Kirks G-1 gimbal head also. I work out randomly and can bench press 100 lbs in 2 sets of 10 times. I used to that in three sets of 15 times. So keeping yourself in shape of some sort will keep you mobile for years to come. I know someone who nearly 80 and he has no problem with heavy camera equipment.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:09:28   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
gvarner wrote:
What is it with weight? Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape. I'm 73 and in poor shape but have no problem carrying my D7000 and 18-200 zoom around when I go out and about. Shifting from one hand to the other isn't difficult. I like the inertia of the weight when I get it up to my eye to take a shot. Verticals are a bit problematic but I could solve that with more exercising and muscle tone. End of rant.
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I think people should quit whining about having to turn the camera to get a portrait view photograph.

I'll be 70 in a few months, I'm not in good shape or in good health though I take a full frame camera and two or three lenses (primes) when I go out. But I am also compassionate and understanding enough to be aware that not everyone is as fortunate as I am.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean that others can and/or should be able to do the same.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:11:54   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
gvarner wrote:
What is it with weight? Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape. I'm 73 and in poor shape but have no problem carrying my D7000 and 18-200 zoom around when I go out and about. Shifting from one hand to the other isn't difficult. I like the inertia of the weight when I get it up to my eye to take a shot. Verticals are a bit problematic but I could solve that with more exercising and muscle tone. End of rant.
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Agree 100 PerCent. An excuse to have GAS and buy Mirrorless.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:17:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The case is for a Graphic View II. Along with 10 film holders, filters, and 5 lenses. Over the last couple of weeks I photographed these:
http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/3/24/394047-gvc2_2018031801_004.jpg
http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/4/8/452821-gvc2_20180040101_001.jpg

Some years ago:
http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/4/11/274694-gvc2_tree_bark.jpg
http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/3/28/277892-gvc2_1979042901_004.jpg

BTW, I'm not bragging about being able to carry "weighty" cameras. I'm simply pointing out that I do. Bragging would probably bring about bad juju.
--Bob

wayne barnett wrote:
rmalarz - case looks just like the one I have - no camera darnit but film holders and slides. Was a great camera to shoot with - gave great negs. Yes, when younger we would carry around 40 plus pounds of equipment. Do not know if it made us better photogs but it kept us grounded.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:17:55   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
gvarner wrote:
What is it with weight? Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape. I'm 73 and in poor shape but have no problem carrying my D7000 and 18-200 zoom around when I go out and about. Shifting from one hand to the other isn't difficult. I like the inertia of the weight when I get it up to my eye to take a shot. Verticals are a bit problematic but I could solve that with more exercising and muscle tone. End of rant.
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Could it be possible that while I am ABLE to carry about 40 lbs of gear I just don't want to?

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Apr 12, 2018 11:24:15   #
willaim Loc: Sunny Southern California
 
Great reply. I'm 84, not muscle bound, and use a Canon 80D with the vertical grip and my go to lens is a Tamron 18-400. Believe it or not, I find it difficult to hold a lighter camera.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:39:52   #
Hip Coyote
 
I think cameras are like guns. Take the right one for the job. But carry the biggest one you can. There are a lot of varied situations to consider. I just hiked in Peru over a pass that was 15,000 feet plus in altitude. I carried a m4/3 with one zoom and one prime. The IBIS allowed me to take 1/2 shots of streams without a tripod. Shedding ounces, much less pounds was vital.

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Apr 12, 2018 12:32:48   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
gvarner wrote:
What is it with weight? Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape. I'm 73 and in poor shape but have no problem carrying my D7000 and 18-200 zoom around when I go out and about. Shifting from one hand to the other isn't difficult. I like the inertia of the weight when I get it up to my eye to take a shot. Verticals are a bit problematic but I could solve that with more exercising and muscle tone. End of rant.
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Sometime it is not about the weight. Sometimes it is about the size and cost. Can you get an equivalent 14-28 f2.8, 24-200 f4, pro camera body, flash, filters, extra battery, and memory cards into a 6" X 11" X 12" camera bag? Total cost for all is less than $5K? I have such a system. The fact that the total weight, bag and all, is less than 7 pounds is just a bonus.

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Apr 12, 2018 13:13:36   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
gvarner wrote:
What is it with weight? Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape. I'm 73 and in poor shape but have no problem carrying my D7000 and 18-200 zoom around when I go out and about. Shifting from one hand to the other isn't difficult. I like the inertia of the weight when I get it up to my eye to take a shot. Verticals are a bit problematic but I could solve that with more exercising and muscle tone. End of rant.
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Exactly!

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Apr 12, 2018 13:44:32   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
When I'm rock climbing for example, or I'm out on a strenuous 3-day mountain hike, weight certainly does matter! Every ounce I am to carry needs careful consideration, including choice of photographic gear. In that respect, a lighter camera can be very beneficial.

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Apr 12, 2018 13:49:30   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
gvarner wrote:
...End of rant.
What is it with grumpy old men who spend all their time criticizing other people instead of engaging in constructive conversation about the art and science of photography? You talked about this same subject six weeks ago, gvarner:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-516379-1.html

Somebody please just shoot me if the only joy I can find in life is to post meaningless "rants" to online forums. End of rant

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Apr 12, 2018 14:33:53   #
Nancysc
 
I haven't (so far) seen anything in this thread that is a rant by grumpy old men. Everyone is describing his or her experience and preferences in tolerable weight for a camera rig. I agree with the hikers and climbers that every ounce (or gram) counts. That backpack just gets heavier with every step at the end of a day or a climb. I know long-distance walkers who cut off the end of their toothbrush to save weight. If you are out for a day and return to your home, camper, hotel at nightfall, you could lug 50 pounds but who wants that on a multi-day hike?

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Apr 12, 2018 14:55:50   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
What is it with grumpy old men who spend all their time criticizing other people instead of engaging in constructive conversation about the art and science of photography? You talked about this same subject six weeks ago, gvarner:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-516379-1.html

Somebody please just shoot me if the only joy I can find in life is to post meaningless "rants" to online forums. End of rant
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You win the best answer of the thread.

The end :)

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Apr 12, 2018 14:58:03   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nancysc wrote:
I haven't (so far) seen anything in this thread that is a rant by grumpy old men. Everyone is describing his or her experience and preferences in tolerable weight for a camera rig. ....


Read more carefully.

She quoted gvarner who's 73, a man, and called his own post "a rant"

She wasn't addressing the others....looks like she was spot on.

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Apr 12, 2018 14:58:34   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Nancysc wrote:
I haven't (so far) seen anything in this thread that is a rant by grumpy old men...
Welcome to the forum, Nancy! OP said "Unless you're physically impaired there's no reason to be always looking for lighter gear. Tired of carrying it around? Get in better shape."

rmarlarz replied, "I'm with you. As you stated, unless one is physically handicapped, quite whining."

Suggestions for solutions, as you mentioned, are great. There have been topics specifically requesting similar and I've never seen someone "whine" about their own physical capabilities or lack thereof; they merely relate their problem or question, and then a number of well-meaning, helpful folks share their personal experiences.

The condescending "get in shape" topics show up every six months or so (or more, in the case of gvarner). This one made me grumpy

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