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Apr 10, 2018 17:24:15   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Dad, you do the candid photographs and possibly the video of the service. But, please, it's your Daughter's wedding, contract with the Pro for the rest. I don't doubt your capabilities, but let me share my story.

We got married about 40 years ago in my Mother-In-Laws backyard (first mistake). Her boyfriend was a "great Photographer" and would do the wedding photos (second mistake).
My Wife's father was there, and his ex and he were very taken by the ceremony and were quite affectionate with each other. The Mother-In-Laws' Boyfriend was so pissed off by this that he took absolutely abominable pictures that were just unusable. So, I have nothing to show and remember our wedding by.

I wish I could have stood up to Mother-In-Law (final mistake) and insisted on a hired Photographer.

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Apr 10, 2018 18:16:43   #
Tim Stapp Loc: Mid Mitten
 
As the father: go and enjoy the wedding. How, pray tell; can you walk her down the aisle and photograph at the same time? If you want candid shots after the ceremony, go for it. In my opinion, enjoy the day and be glad someone else is taking the photos. BTW, I'm a part time wedding photographer.

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Apr 10, 2018 18:18:53   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
I have been in this position before and can tell you that it isn’t a good one. You get all the frustration and no real benefit. Since that time I have advised friends and relatives to buy a bunch of throwaway cameras and have 2 on all the tables for the guests to use. You will get many more candid shots and you are free to either take photos or enjoy the reception. The pro will get the job done during the actual ceremony.

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Apr 10, 2018 18:55:55   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Does your daughter have any siblings? We faced this question with the youngest of four. I made her oldest brother do it & I thoroughly enjoyed the day with no pressure other than "the walk." FWIW, I think it was a good decision. Whatever you decide, congratulations and best of luck.

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Apr 10, 2018 18:57:58   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Dad, you do the candid photographs and possibly the video of the service. But, please, it's your Daughter's wedding, contract with the Pro for the rest. I don't doubt your capabilities, but let me share my story.

We got married about 40 years ago in my Mother-In-Laws backyard (first mistake). Her boyfriend was a "great Photographer" and would do the wedding photos (second mistake).
My Wife's father was there, and his ex and he were very taken by the ceremony and were quite affectionate with each other. The Mother-In-Laws' Boyfriend was so pissed off by this that he took absolutely abominable pictures that were just unusable. So, I have nothing to show and remember our wedding by.

I wish I could have stood up to Mother-In-Law (final mistake) and insisted on a hired Photographer.
Dad, you do the candid photographs and possibly th... (show quote)


Sorry, but in a sick way, that pretty hilarious. No offense intended.

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Apr 10, 2018 19:04:43   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
We had a pro photograph my son’s wedding, but I took my FF (5D3), just one lens - an 85 f1.8 (wanted something light, fast with a little reach and a complimentary portrait lens - could have also used my 135 f2) and no flash. I met the pro and told him I’d stay out of his way and not use a flash. In the end, it worked out well. I took about 300 shots, edited down to about 75, and the bride’s mother liked mine better than the pro’s. He was actually much better than me, shot a pair of D750s with only occasional use of flash. Indoors, well lighted, but still required ISO 3200-6400, but not an issue - shot typically 1/200-1/250, wide open to f2.8 depending and let the ISO float on auto ISO. Developed a great relationship with the pro, learned some things (I have shot maybe a dozen weddings previously solo with no second shooter, but always 2 of everything in terms of equipment). For me, it didn’t spoil the experience because I didn’t have the prime responsibility so I could relax. Hope it works out well for you. Consider yourself an adjunct and let the pro take the stress - just stay out of his way and be careful using flash (if at all) while he’s shooting.

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Apr 10, 2018 20:46:39   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
TriX wrote:
We had a pro photograph my son’s wedding, but I took my FF (5D3), just one lens - an 85 f1.8 (wanted something light, fast with a little reach and a complimentary portrait lens - could have also used my 135 f2) and no flash. I met the pro and told him I’d stay out of his way and not use a flash. In the end, it worked out well. I took about 300 shots, edited down to about 75, and the bride’s mother liked mine better than the pro’s. He was actually much better than me, shot a pair of D750s with only occasional use of flash. Indoors, well lighted, but still required ISO 3200-6400, but not an issue - shot typically 1/200-1/250, wide open to f2.8 depending and let the ISO float on auto ISO. Developed a great relationship with the pro, learned some things (I have shot maybe a dozen weddings previously solo with no second shooter, but always 2 of everything in terms of equipment). For me, it didn’t spoil the experience because I didn’t have the prime responsibility so I could relax. Hope it works out well for you. Consider yourself an adjunct and let the pro take the stress - just stay out of his way and be careful using flash (if at all) while he’s shooting.
We had a pro photograph my son’s wedding, but I to... (show quote)


That's something. The Bride's mother liked your photos better than the professional? What can I say.

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Apr 10, 2018 21:55:35   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
If you had a very sharp knife would you try to take out her appendix? Shooting a wedding is a do or die--just one chance--DON'T DO IT
Stan

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Apr 10, 2018 22:16:02   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
mas24 wrote:
That's something. The Bride's mother liked your photos better than the professional? What can I say.


I was careful to avoid any of her bad features 🤫 His work was just different (and candidly, to my eye, much better). Technically, they were similar in terms of exposure, IQ, etc., but he used more wide angle shots (while I tend to frame and crop tightly) and he delivered an excellent slide show presentation complete with perfect music. A better overall execution and delivery. I delivered 75 well-exposed shots, but he delivered a story... And that’s why he’s a pro and I’m not.

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Apr 10, 2018 22:38:09   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
My daughter was married last August. We hired a photographer and I'm glad we did. She is a pro and she knows what she's doing. That didn't stop me from taking pics. I concentrated on the time before the wedding. She was home with her friends. They hired a makeup artist and a hair stylist. I made breakfast for the young women. After that the hair stylist, the makeup artist and the photographer showed up. I stayed out of their way but I got my pictures too. It was a fun day. I let the professionals do their work and stayed on the sidelines taking pictures of them doing their work. It gave me a role in the wedding and I enjoyed being part of my daughter's interaction with her closest friends, most of whom I've known since their college days. My advice: let the professionals to what they do best. Enjoy the day. Don't make it into a job.

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Apr 11, 2018 01:02:41   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
pesfls wrote:
Sorry, but in a sick way, that pretty hilarious. No offense intended.


Dude, you should have seen the pictures. After they broke up it took almost a year to get the prints.

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Apr 11, 2018 04:46:35   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Working your own daughter's wedding? So I take it you will not be in any of the shots? Then you have to spend the rest of your next week or two doing post and putting together an album.
Hire someone who does this for a living and understands how to do it properly and has the equipment.

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Apr 11, 2018 05:00:46   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
This is a really bad idea. If you do it you will really regret it.
quenepas wrote:
Dear Fellow Hogs,

As in the past, you’re my first “go-to” advisors on photography matters. This one relates to my daughter asking that I be her wedding photographer. I’m an average amateur plus if things go afoul, the last one you want to complain that her wedding pictures are junk is your daughter.

The wedding takes place at the Coco Cay beach (Caribbean) during a cruise with family and friends. She contracted a photographer from the cruise line. However, she still insists that I take pictures of the wedding. She thinks my shots will be better and more candid. I’m not keen about getting in photographer’s way. That’s a no-no. However, I can take some shots before, during and after the wedding. I’ve never done weddings as a “job”. I’ve taken fashion shots of a granddaughter for a contest. So, whatever advice I get from you folks will be appreciated. Advice requested encompasses, pre-event prep, equipment, use of flash, settings, cameras, poses, and whatever else you believe to be important if I want to make every shot a “keeper”. (Not likely, but good to think positive.)

I have two months to practice.

I have 3 go-to cameras: Nikon D610, Sony a7R, and a Fujifilm X100F. Lenses are somewhat scarce.

My preference is for the Nikon D610 with a Nikon 35mm-70mm 2.8D and Nikon SB-700 Speedlight (image quality, long-lasting battery, versatile lens). As a backup, I would have the Fujifilm X100F (fixed 23mm lens). And that’s it.

I’m not considering the Sony a7R. Nice camera but all I have is a 28-70mm 3.5-5.6 kit lens, and a Samyang 85mm 1.4 all-manual lens. Plus, battery life is shorter than that of a fruit fly. Have no speedlight for this camera.

Due to reduced travel gear, I haven’t considered a tripod nor light reflectors. But I will if your advice is to do so.

The wedding is a day event; before noon. So, light may be ok. Hopefully, no rain.

I’m one of those that’s intimidated by speedlights and TTL or manual adjustments, so I better get some practice in before the wedding.

Well, seems like a lot. Sorry. But would greatly appreciate your insights.

Best to all. Val
Dear Fellow Hogs, br br As in the past, you’re my... (show quote)

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Apr 11, 2018 05:31:13   #
winkleaf Loc: Blue Bell, PA
 
My standard reply to such requests: "If I screw up, are you getting married again ?"
Worked every time I used this reasoning for rejecting the request.

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Apr 11, 2018 05:47:25   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
I have taken amateur photo at friends and relatives wedding. They supplement the pro photos nicely. For my daughter's wedding I set my camera to auto mode and gave my camera to my brother. Then I went about being a proud father and enjoyed celebrating the big event. Relax and enjoy yourself.

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