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Apr 11, 2018 10:33:16   #
jcboy3
 
pounder35 wrote:
Everybody needs to relearn this…



WHO TOOK MY MONEY?

Actually, Democrat President Kennedy and Sergeant Shriver were the first ones to misuse the Social Security account.. They used Social Security funds to start the Peace Corps. Not the first or last time our money has been taken from American citizens and given to foreign nations.



Things every US citizen should know and remember about Social Security and changes made.



A History Lesson on Your Social Security Card Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
Facts are Facts.



Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.
He promised:



1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary.
No longer Voluntary



2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program.
Now 7.65% on the first $90,000.



3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year.
No longer tax deductible



4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.
Under Democrat President Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent.



5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Democrats Clinton & Gore Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed.



Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following:



Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.



Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democrat Party.



Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US .



Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!



Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!



And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve.
Everybody needs to relearn this… br br br br W... (show quote)


What I don’t see is any position by Republicans that would reverse those changes.

https://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-social-security/

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Apr 11, 2018 11:28:39   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
jcboy3 wrote:
What I don’t see is any position by Republicans that would reverse those changes.

https://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-social-security/


And that changes the fact that all these things that were done by progressives, how?

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Apr 11, 2018 11:43:07   #
jcboy3
 
phcaan wrote:
And that changes the fact that all these things that were done by progressives, how?


Doesn't change it. Doesn't mean anything at all. Nobody is going to fix it.

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Apr 11, 2018 12:17:26   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:
Must be an old E-mail as the cap for 2017 is $127,000.
The questions and answers are redundant as everything in them was stated earlier in your post.
I've never heard a Democrat advocate privatizing SS.


William Jefferson Clinton did.

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Apr 11, 2018 12:19:01   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Kraken wrote:
I think that Thom realizes writing 3 and 4 paragraph posts are a waste of time because nothing will penetrate hardened cement block heads.


Yet I still try to educate you and won’t give up.

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Apr 11, 2018 12:24:19   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
LWW wrote:
Yet I still try to educate you and won’t give up.



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Apr 11, 2018 12:52:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LWW wrote:
William Jefferson Clinton did.


I wasn't aware of that, or I don't remember it, amounts to the same thing. Clinton was a Democrat but he was never a liberal.

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Apr 11, 2018 12:56:56   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
You stated and I quote "I've never heard a Democrat advocate privatizing SS." yet here is a prime example and yet you seek to dismiss it. Even though it has proven you wrong.
thom w wrote:
I wasn't aware of that, or I don't remember it, amounts to the same thing. Clinton was a Democrat but he was never a liberal.

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Apr 11, 2018 13:15:09   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
You stated and I quote "I've never heard a Democrat advocate privatizing SS." yet here is a prime example and yet you seek to dismiss it. Even though it has proven you wrong.


I'm not dismissing it. If I was mistaken (I haven't checked) then I was. Actually I started with "I've never heard" so I may have been technically correct, but I'll concede that if Clinton said that or tried to do that then I was wrong. That "he was never a liberal" was for clarification, not some attempt to claim to be the winner, whatever that even means. You really shouldn't approach things as if everyone thinks like you do.

Just checked, it appears that Clinton actually didn't get that far, but without Monica he and Newt probably would have.

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Apr 11, 2018 19:18:59   #
jcboy3
 
pounder35 wrote:
Everybody needs to relearn this…



WHO TOOK MY MONEY?

Actually, Democrat President Kennedy and Sergeant Shriver were the first ones to misuse the Social Security account.. They used Social Security funds to start the Peace Corps. Not the first or last time our money has been taken from American citizens and given to foreign nations.



Things every US citizen should know and remember about Social Security and changes made.



A History Lesson on Your Social Security Card Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
Facts are Facts.



Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.
He promised:



1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary.
No longer Voluntary



2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program.
Now 7.65% on the first $90,000.



3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year.
No longer tax deductible



4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.
Under Democrat President Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent.



5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Democrats Clinton & Gore Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed.



Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following:



Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.



Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democrat Party.



Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US .



Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!



Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!



And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve.
Everybody needs to relearn this… br br br br W... (show quote)


Okay. It's all fake right wing BS. If you believe it, I got some bridges you can jump off of.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

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Apr 11, 2018 20:45:01   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
pounder35 wrote:
Everybody needs to relearn this…



WHO TOOK MY MONEY?

Actually, Democrat President Kennedy and Sergeant Shriver were the first ones to misuse the Social Security account.. They used Social Security funds to start the Peace Corps. Not the first or last time our money has been taken from American citizens and given to foreign nations.



Things every US citizen should know and remember about Social Security and changes made.



A History Lesson on Your Social Security Card Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
Facts are Facts.



Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.



Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.
He promised:



1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary.
No longer Voluntary



2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program.
Now 7.65% on the first $90,000.



3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year.
No longer tax deductible



4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.
Under Democrat President Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent.



5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Democrats Clinton & Gore Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed.



Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following:



Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.



Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democrat Party.



Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US .



Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!



Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!



And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve.
Everybody needs to relearn this… br br br br W... (show quote)


Did you ever think, while trawling through the garbage can, that during the periods of Republican government since all this has been going on, Republicans did nothing to reverse the situation.
And yes, it would not be surprising to hear the Repubs would want to take SS away from the working ppl.
But they don't hesitate to give the rich, a nice tax cut!!!

Open your eyes.

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Apr 11, 2018 21:18:42   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Did you ever think, while trawling through the garbage can, that during the periods of Republican government since all this has been going on, Republicans did nothing to reverse the situation.
And yes, it would not be surprising to hear the Repubs would want to take SS away from the working ppl.
But they don't hesitate to give the rich, a nice tax cut!!!

Open your eyes.

Open your eyes too. Do you actually think Democrats wouldn’t protect their donor base? You know, those people with money?

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Apr 11, 2018 21:22:49   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Did you ever think, while trawling through the garbage can, that during the periods of Republican government since all this has been going on, Republicans did nothing to reverse the situation.
And yes, it would not be surprising to hear the Repubs would want to take SS away from the working ppl.
But they don't hesitate to give the rich, a nice tax cut!!!

Open your eyes.

I am glad to see you stick to the script, good job.

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Apr 11, 2018 22:33:24   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Did you ever think, while trawling through the garbage can, that during the periods of Republican government since all this has been going on, Republicans did nothing to reverse the situation.
And yes, it would not be surprising to hear the Repubs would want to take SS away from the working ppl.
But they don't hesitate to give the rich, a nice tax cut!!!

Open your eyes.


Of course I've questioned why Republicans have done nothing. Maybe we need an outsider like President Trump to look at the problem from a different perspective. How's the social systems down under? I have no idea. Why don't you enlighten us.

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Apr 11, 2018 22:35:31   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Okay. It's all fake right wing BS. If you believe it, I got some bridges you can jump off of.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html


I'll have to study this tomorrow.

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