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Apr 8, 2018 20:38:15   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
Yesterday I posted on this forum survey where I asked 4 questions and after 2006 views and 101 posts I have received answers from 28 members.
1. Do you have anaglyph glasses ? 10 Yes 18 No
2. Have you ever seen anaglyph pictures using anaglyph glasses? 15 Yes 13 No
3. Do you know how to make 3D anagliph photo? 8 Yes 20 No
4. Do you think it is difficult? 4 Yes 5 No and 23 ?
I begun to make anaglyph photos short time ago and enjoy making them and looking images in different places. I did not see big UHH members interest in this. I was surprised and decided to organize survey. I think that most of the people who did not participate in this survey do not have anaglyph glasses and have not seen anaglyph pictures. I suggest people who does not have anaglyph glasses buy them. They are very cheap and you can find them on eBay, Amazon. com and somewhere else. I am sure you will not be regret. You will have additional pleasure from your hobby - photography.

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Apr 8, 2018 21:00:38   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
MMC, I did see your post, unfortunately I’m red-green color blind and I’ve never seen one of these that looked 3-D. They’re just a blurry mess to me.

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Apr 8, 2018 21:08:43   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
I am sorry to know this. Enjoy B&W photography.
BassmanBruce wrote:
MMC, I did see your post, unfortunately I’m red-green color blind and I’ve never seen one of these that looked 3-D. They’re just a blurry mess to me.

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Apr 8, 2018 22:38:55   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
MMC wrote:
I am sorry to know this. Enjoy B&W photography.


Maybe I overstated here, I see colors, I just can’t see the 3-D effect in these glasses.

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Apr 8, 2018 23:21:43   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
Do you have anaglyph glasses now?
BassmanBruce wrote:
Maybe I overstated here, I see colors, I just can’t see the 3-D effect in these glasses.

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Apr 8, 2018 23:24:31   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
MMC wrote:
Do you have anaglyph glasses now?


No, though I’ve tried several in the past. The polarized ones work well for me.

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Apr 9, 2018 01:31:18   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
MMC, I did see your post, unfortunately I’m red-green color blind and I’ve never seen one of these that looked 3-D. They’re just a blurry mess to me.

To me too, and I'm not color blind!

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Apr 9, 2018 05:49:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
MMC wrote:
... I begun to make anaglyph photos short time ago and enjoy making them and looking images in different places. I did not see big UHH members interest in this. I was surprised ...

There are several reasons for the lack of interest in 3D.

The presentation of the image on a computer screen makes it difficult to easily produce the 3D effect by any means other than anaglyph. Placing two image side-by-side and trying merge them forces the viewer to cross their eyes like a chameleon. That's difficult or impossible.

Any other form of viewing requires a special means of presentation such as polarized projection or some form of stereoscope. You can't do this on a computer screen.

Another fundamental problem is that 3D cannot be faked. It is difficult or impossible to convert a 2D image into 3D by manipulation - stretching or compressing an image or shifting and sliding selected portions of the image. It's much easier to simply capture two separate images from two horizontally displaced perspectives. The photographer must have a clear understanding of 3D perception, that the effect can only be appreciated in your mind by your two eyes integrating the two images that were captured originally from horizontally separate viewpoints. The concept is really very simple.

The bottom line is that 3D can only work if the viewer puts out a little effort and if the presenter understands the fundamental nature of 3D.

3D will never be a popular art form. It is a novelty.

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Apr 9, 2018 07:03:29   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
IMHO you need glasses like on the picture I attached to this post.
BassmanBruce wrote:
No, though I’ve tried several in the past. The polarized ones work well for me.

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Apr 9, 2018 07:06:44   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
I think you used wrong glasses. There are glasses for watching TV and they are not working with anaglyph images.
speters wrote:
To me too, and I'm not color blind!

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Apr 9, 2018 07:11:35   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
MMC, I did see your post, unfortunately I’m red-green color blind and I’ve never seen one of these that looked 3-D. They’re just a blurry mess to me.

That is an interesting statement. Each eye will receive a differing message and so at first thought should see a 3D image.

MMC, I commend you for distilling the results, a step unheard of in UHH where the OP asked a question and never distilled the essence perhaps never read the results of their question.

The 3D images hidden in color, stereograms, are also very interesting. The article goes on to say that 15% of people have really impaired vision ... including perception! Well, that is reinforced by looking at some of the photos in UHH gallery... double vision, lazy eye, crossed eyes, amblyopia, strabismus, esotropia, exotropia, esophoria, exophoria, hypertropia, hyperopia, loss of stereoscopic vision, poor depth perception, convergency insufficiency, poor tracking, etc. take your pick....

http://www.vision3d.com/sghidden.html

asking Mr Google the question, can colorblind people see 3D movies, there came a comment, " Strangely most people who can't view modern 3D are left-handed." This reinforces Homer Simpson's predigest against left-handedness. This is next on the Trump agenda... purge the population of lefties.... MMC you have opened a can of worms...

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Apr 9, 2018 07:21:25   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
I tried many times to see 3D effect crossing eyes but it is not working for me and many others. I do not think that this can do everybody but I showed my printed pictures and my images on computer's screen to my friends and relatives and everybody could see 3D effect. It does not needs any efforts and training only anaglyph glasses.
selmslie wrote:
There are several reasons for the lack of interest in 3D.

The presentation of the image on a computer screen makes it difficult to easily produce the 3D effect by any means other than anaglyph. Placing two image side-by-side and trying merge them forces the viewer to cross their eyes like a chameleon. That's difficult or impossible.

Any other form of viewing requires a special means of presentation such as polarized projection or some form of stereoscope. You can't do this on a computer screen.

Another fundamental problem is that 3D cannot be faked. It is difficult or impossible to convert a 2D image into 3D by manipulation - stretching or compressing an image or shifting and sliding selected portions of the image. It's much easier to simply capture two separate images from two horizontally displaced perspectives. The photographer must have a clear understanding of 3D perception, that the effect can only be appreciated in your mind by your two eyes integrating the two images that were captured originally from horizontally separate viewpoints. The concept is really very simple.

The bottom line is that 3D can only work if the viewer puts out a little effort and if the presenter understands the fundamental nature of 3D.

3D will never be a popular art form. It is a novelty.
There are several reasons for the lack of interest... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2018 07:41:16   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
Thank you for your participation in this discussion and link. I did not read all articles yet but see that that method requires training and I am not sure that it is so simple. I enjoy creating and viewing 3D anaglyps and my goal to invite people in this amazing world. I know that anaglyph photos have some drawbacks but anyway I like to make and see them.
dpullum wrote:
That is an interesting statement. Each eye will receive a differing message and so at first thought should see a 3D image.

MMC, I commend you for distilling the results, a step unheard of in UHH where the OP asked a question and never distilled the essence perhaps never read the results of their question.

The 3D images hidden in color, stereograms, are also very interesting. The article goes on to say that 15% of people have really impaired vision ... including perception! Well, that is reinforced by looking at some of the photos in UHH gallery... double vision, lazy eye, crossed eyes, amblyopia, strabismus, esotropia, exotropia, esophoria, exophoria, hypertropia, hyperopia, loss of stereoscopic vision, poor depth perception, convergency insufficiency, poor tracking, etc. take your pick....

http://www.vision3d.com/sghidden.html

asking Mr Google the question, can colorblind people see 3D movies, there came a comment, " Strangely most people who can't view modern 3D are left-handed." This reinforces Homer Simpson's predigest against left-handedness. This is next on the Trump agenda... purge the population of lefties.... MMC you have opened a can of worms...
That is an interesting statement. Each eye will r... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2018 08:32:17   #
secular
 
I am a fan of 3D photography. Have taken many pictures with a Realist Stereo camera in the past. I have tried different digital methods but have not been satisfied with the results. How do you take your 3D pictures? I haven’t tried taking anaglyph photos so could use some advice.

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Apr 9, 2018 08:59:08   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
I am glad that I have found one more fan of 3D photography. I am using DSLR, tripod and 2 way Macro Shot Focusing Focus Rail Slider. I take 2 shots moving my camera on tripod and slider from right to left. Distance between 1-st and 2-nd camera position approximately 2-3 inches /If i do not like result I am changing this distance./ I do not change focus point and exposure for the 2-nd shot. After that I upload picture in software. I have found few software online which can convert my shots in anaglyph photo for free. I tried to take 2 shots without tripod and was not satisfied.
secular wrote:
I am a fan of 3D photography. Have taken many pictures with a Realist Stereo camera in the past. I have tried different digital methods but have not been satisfied with the results. How do you take your 3D pictures? I haven’t tried taking anaglyph photos so could use some advice.

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