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Apr 14, 2018 01:32:13   #
19104 Loc: Philadelphia
 
DaveC1 wrote:
So, if I understand you correctly you are using lens that were originally intended to mount on a lens board and be used in a field camera and adapting that to a DSLR????

How are you doing that? Focal length is very different, not to mention some type of helicoid will have to be rigged up.

I don't disagree that there is some lovely old glass that falls into that category I just don't understand how your using it on a DSLR. I'm lost.


Sorry Dave to be so confusing. There is a 2 part response to your query. First i was responding to someone implying that good glass was not made before the 1970's. I was not actually referring to using these lens on your slr.

2nd part But you can with a fairly simple adapter here is one https://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Pro-Lens-Mount-Adapter/dp/B004G13XBW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523683617&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+to+4x5+adapter. I have yet to get one but soon. the way I figure it if you only need Perspective control occasionally and you already own a view camera. one of these adapters would be a quick and dirty way to accomplish that. Way cheaper than a dedicated PC lens.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion

John

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Apr 14, 2018 08:07:46   #
DaveC1 Loc: South East US
 
19104 wrote:
Sorry Dave to be so confusing. There is a 2 part response to your query. First i was responding to someone implying that good glass was not made before the 1970's. I was not actually referring to using these lens on your slr.

2nd part But you can with a fairly simple adapter here is one https://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Pro-Lens-Mount-Adapter/dp/B004G13XBW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523683617&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+to+4x5+adapter. I have yet to get one but soon. the way I figure it if you only need Perspective control occasionally and you already own a view camera. one of these adapters would be a quick and dirty way to accomplish that. Way cheaper than a dedicated PC lens.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion

John
Sorry Dave to be so confusing. There is a 2 part ... (show quote)


Thanks John,

Well, that's pretty interesting! I wonder if that will fit my 2 1/4X3 1/4 Graphex Crown Graphic which has a 101mm f4.5 lens on it and does use a graflok 120 back.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:13:52   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
anotherview wrote:
Using a modern lens with effective image stabilization in it along with careful hand holding technique may make unnecessary the use of a tripod to gain a sharp image.

Read more here: https://kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-killed-my-tripod.htm

The insistence on use of tripod nowadays appears more like a dogma from the passe film era.

Some conditions of course require a tripod for best results.

Note that the Camera Shake Reduction filter in Photoshop CC can eliminate or compensate for a slightly blurred image.
Using a modern lens with effective image stabiliza... (show quote)

If your body is stabilized, you can get the same kind of service from older lenses. Pentax users delight in using the vast array of great M42-mount lenses, for example.

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Apr 14, 2018 16:44:00   #
whwiden
 
I use older manual Nikon lenses which I acquired originally to use on an F2S photomic film camera. I appreciate that I can use them on my Nikon D750. I sometimes take both cameras and a common set of lenses. My 105mm f/2.5 probably gets the most current use. I am not overly concerned that my old lens collection will break. It is compact, but not light weight. 24mm, 35-70mm, 50mm, 105mm, 200mm, 300mm. They are all reasonably sharp, with a different look. A nice set up, but less so for action.

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Apr 15, 2018 00:56:24   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Sometimes I use older manual Pentax lenses which I acquired originally to use on a Super Program film camera. I appreciate that I can use them on my Pentax K-30. I sometimes take both cameras and a common set of lenses. I am not at all concerned that my old lens collection will break - Pentax has always made sturdy stuff. They are compact, but not light weight. They are all reasonably sharp, with a different look. A nice set up, but less so for action.

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Apr 15, 2018 01:10:17   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
n3eg wrote:
I have one of these that I picked up for $7 at a Goodwill store with a stuck filter and loose focus ring. I repaired it and stuck it on a M42/m43 adapter. Does pretty well on my micro four thirds cameras - of course, it has twice the DOF and corner sharpness is improved here. And yes, I tested it and it is definitely radioactive, most of it coming out the back end.


More importantly 2x the FOV

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Apr 15, 2018 01:29:58   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
anotherview wrote:
Ditto: "Modern computer based design and manucturing combined with new materials can achieve results that were much harder to do decades ago."

They also had different goals. In days gone past they understood there are characteristics other than 'corner to corner sharpness', while today that is what everyone looks for.

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Apr 17, 2018 01:00:06   #
19104 Loc: Philadelphia
 
DaveC1 wrote:
Thanks John,

Well, that's pretty interesting! I wonder if that will fit my 2 1/4X3 1/4 Graphex Crown Graphic which has a 101mm f4.5 lens on it and does use a graflok 120 back.


Dave in researching your query. I came across this site about a DIY adapter back. https://nikonrumors.com/2012/07/30/guest-post-large-format-photography-with-nikon-d800-as-a-negative-holder.aspx/ and a more detailed explanation suing a canon DSLR. Both should work for any camera. I had totally forgotten about thses sites now I have a new project on my to do list.

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Apr 17, 2018 06:28:46   #
19104 Loc: Philadelphia
 
19104 wrote:
Dave in researching your query. I came across this site about a DIY adapter back. https://nikonrumors.com/2012/07/30/guest-post-large-format-photography-with-nikon-d800-as-a-negative-holder.aspx/ and a more detailed explanation using a canon DSLR.http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-mpp-view-camera-adapter/ Both should work for any camera. I had totally forgotten about these sites now I have a new project on my to do list.

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Apr 17, 2018 07:51:03   #
DaveC1 Loc: South East US
 
19104 wrote:
Dave in researching your query. I came across this site about a DIY adapter back. https://nikonrumors.com/2012/07/30/guest-post-large-format-photography-with-nikon-d800-as-a-negative-holder.aspx/ and a more detailed explanation suing a canon DSLR. Both should work for any camera. I had totally forgotten about thses sites now I have a new project on my to do list.


Well, okay, that makes sense. So basically you need an extension tube, and a lens board, which is easily fabricated.

Thank you 19104!

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Apr 19, 2018 11:00:03   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Missed his eye a little bit, download, expand, and look at the hair close to his eye, I know of very few lenses that are tak sharp at f/1.4, I have both a Canon 50/1.4 and a Sigma EX 50/1.4 and this lens is as good as either.

I think the image looks just fine - exactly what you'd expect from a vintage lens @ f/1.4 with very shallow DoF to start with. As I commented earlier, they were interested in aspects of rendering other than corner-to-corner sharpness, and it was considered impolite to stand next to a picture with a magnifying glass.
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