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Apr 7, 2018 10:55:54   #
parishard
 
The 'bubble', as you call it, is simply the obvious result of 9 years of giving people free money (no taxes on profits, zero interest rate on invested money, almost zero interest rate on borrowed money, giving free money to anyone who will vote for you, accumulating a debt of 9 trillion dollars). What do you expect when sanity comes to rule? I know of not one single person that has managed to survive by running their personal finances that way. A good example is California. They have an unfunded debt obligation of about 1 and one-half trillion dollars. I am going to love to see how they pay that off. What is their next step as self-professed leaders of society, fire on Fort Sumter?

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Apr 7, 2018 12:21:11   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I saw DJI, I immediately thought of the drone, and I couldn't understand your post. Now I get it.


I know, right?!?!?


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Apr 7, 2018 12:26:15   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
The stock market operates on FEAR! This could happen that might happen! JUST FEAR it always has and while everyone is crying the real investors are buying

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Apr 7, 2018 12:26:34   #
Ed Garry Loc: Michigan
 
Obama 8 years, Trump 1.5 years.

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Apr 7, 2018 12:29:38   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
ole sarg wrote:
the Dow was at 7900 when Obama was elected. It had gone up to 17K when he left office. Not bad for a alien socialist!

Starting with Trump’s inauguration, the Dow has risen from 19,827.3 to 25,075.1 -- an increase of 26 percent. That’s impressive.

But it’s not as impressive as its performance during the equivalent period under Obama. Under Obama, the Dow increased from 7,949.1 to 10,572 — a rise of 33 percent.

In fact, the Dow’s rise was even more impressive under Obama if you start measuring at the market’s low point, on March 9, 2009, during the depths of the Great Recession. That day, the Dow closed at 6,547. Between then and Jan. 5 — a 10-month period — the Dow rose by a stunning 61 percent. That’s more than three times faster than Trump’s rise over the same period in his term.

You can only make decisions when you have the facts. Ignorance is the enemy of clear decision making. Try reading
the Dow was at 7900 when Obama was elected. It ha... (show quote)


"Figures don't lie ... only liars figure"
If you are at "one" and you add "one" that is a 100% increase. If you are at "ten" and you add "one" that is a 10% increase. It's all about perspective.




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Apr 7, 2018 12:36:57   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
ole sarg wrote:
I'll take free trade and a mass of innovative and hard working legal or illegal immigrants like those willing to risk life and limb today as our forefathers over isolationism and a yearning for the "good ole days"!


If that were only true. The majority of ILLEGAL immigrants have no interest in anything but sucking this country's resources dry and sending that money back to their "less than ideal" countries. We should know this by now as they skirted all laws to get here. If they were interested in building their new country then they would have come here LEGALLY and not crap on our laws.
Just Sayin'

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Apr 7, 2018 14:54:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PinOakEO wrote:
Well it took over 2 yrs, but the DJI has finally burst. Blame the weather etc, for all bad #'s.

BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLONS LOST!

Could lose 1/2 of all 9 yr gains!


What 9 year gains?
It is still higher than ever.

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Apr 7, 2018 15:31:27   #
Tinkwmobile
 
ole sarg wrote:
the Dow was at 7900 when Obama was elected. It had gone up to 17K when he left office. Not bad for a alien socialist!

Starting with Trump’s inauguration, the Dow has risen from 19,827.3 to 25,075.1 -- an increase of 26 percent. That’s impressive.

But it’s not as impressive as its performance during the equivalent period under Obama. Under Obama, the Dow increased from 7,949.1 to 10,572 — a rise of 33 percent.

In fact, the Dow’s rise was even more impressive under Obama if you start measuring at the market’s low point, on March 9, 2009, during the depths of the Great Recession. That day, the Dow closed at 6,547. Between then and Jan. 5 — a 10-month period — the Dow rose by a stunning 61 percent. That’s more than three times faster than Trump’s rise over the same period in his term.

You can only make decisions when you have the facts. Ignorance is the enemy of clear decision making. Try reading
the Dow was at 7900 when Obama was elected. It ha... (show quote)


If you only invested in the 30 stocks making up the DJI, this information would be meaningful. My investment portfolio is much broader based.
If that's your measure of a president, then good for you. Obama increased regulations, to the detriment of business. Obama lead the charge of illegal aliens entering USA to the detriment of our personal freedom. Obama represented the global one world view, to the extreme. Obama and his minons, including Hilray, ignored the flyover part of the country that elected Trump.

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Apr 7, 2018 21:19:12   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I saw DJI, I immediately thought of the drone, and I couldn't understand your post. Now I get it.


I thought the same thing Jerry. I was just charging the batteries for my Phantom 3 Advanced to possibly fly tomorrow. The weather has been lousy. When it's not raining it's too windy.

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Apr 7, 2018 21:26:18   #
cabunit Loc: SE Connecticut
 
Tinkwmobile wrote:
Obama increased regulations, to the detriment of business....


Business isn't the only thing that keeps us going. Things like clean air and water count, too, and pay dividends, for example, of a healthier population, which, Trump, Pruitt, & Co. seem not to believe, perhaps because that's so difficult to put a price on. Consider, too, that "regulations" keep us all driving on the right side of the road, which I would wager is good for business. We may disagree on where to draw the lines, but ditching regulations simply because they're regulations is not an intelligent solution.

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Apr 8, 2018 00:31:07   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
nikonbug wrote:
If "the Donald" can at least even partially fix this, you will be much better off. Or maybe your grandchildren will be... Just sayin'


True, but is he going about it the right way? That's what everyone is asking. If this ends up like two kids throwing sand at each other in a sandbox, the outcome could be horrible for everyone. We do sell goods and food to them. Those who depend on that business could be in deep trouble in a trade war and may never recover from the loss. I'd like to think that there is a better way to deal with the issues he is bringing up.

And let's not forget that many of our American companies have some blame in this mess from moving their manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor costs for the sake of profit, not for our sake. Are they willing to start manufacturing over here again? I think that's the only answer to the problem, but that's just me.

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Apr 8, 2018 02:52:57   #
Cheese
 
jaymatt wrote:
...until you cash in, you haven’t lost or made any money at all--it’s all on paper. The only reality comes when you cash in. Anything else is whimsy.


Unless you invested in mutual funds, in which case your fund manager is constantly buying and selling.

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Apr 8, 2018 08:20:22   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
cabunit wrote:
Business isn't the only thing that keeps us going. Things like clean air and water count, too, and pay dividends, for example, of a healthier population, which, Trump, Pruitt, & Co. seem not to believe, perhaps because that's so difficult to put a price on. Consider, too, that "regulations" keep us all driving on the right side of the road, which I would wager is good for business. We may disagree on where to draw the lines, but ditching regulations simply because they're regulations is not an intelligent solution.
Business isn't the only thing that keeps us going.... (show quote)


WELL STATED AND TRUE.

FIRST, TWINKMOBILE WANTED ALL OF US TO KNOW HE IS A BIG SHOT INVESTOR; GO, TWINK, GO 🤑🤑🤑

HOWEVER, HE IS WRONG ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF REGULATIONS; WRONG ABOUT GLOBALISM (it's a Global world economically, if you're an Isolationist, you'll wither on the vine).

BUT, HE IS PARTIALLY CORRECT ABOUT HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN (the fly over stuff). HILLARY WAS A P-POOR CANDIDATE FROM THE BEGINNING (my take).

(Fingers crossed for November 6, and for 2020; (trump has taught those of us who "think" a very hard lesson).

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Apr 8, 2018 08:25:23   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Cheese wrote:
Unless you invested in mutual funds, in which case your fund manager is constantly buying and selling.


Your non sequitur is WRONG, cheesy... jaymatt is Right.

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Apr 8, 2018 08:27:09   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Paladin48 wrote:
If that were only true. The majority of ILLEGAL immigrants have no interest in anything but sucking this country's resources dry and sending that money back to their "less than ideal" countries. We should know this by now as they skirted all laws to get here. If they were interested in building their new country then they would have come here LEGALLY and not crap on our laws.
Just Sayin'


Boy oh boy, P-48, do you know how NOT to think

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