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Apr 5, 2018 08:05:49   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
I was wondering if anyone has a thought as to why there is a strange fuzzy outline, especially around the head. All the shots on this day has the same issue.

Shot with a Nikon D850, Nikon 200-400mm @ 400mm, f/4, 1/1000, ISO 640.

Harold


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Apr 5, 2018 08:16:34   #
DaveC1 Loc: South East US
 
This is an auto focus lens with VR correct? This is also a 5.3 mp crop of the original image I see.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:20:39   #
DaveC1 Loc: South East US
 
It almost looks like the camera was moving down and to the left at the time of the exposure with some owl head movement added in.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:21:25   #
twowindsbear
 
How about posting a pic of something other than a bird that that shows this problem?

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Apr 5, 2018 08:28:17   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
Were you on a tripod? If you were and did not take the lens off of VR that might have caused it. If the lens is in VR on a tripod the system tries to compensate for movement when there is none.

Odd it looks like it is only the owl that is messed up, and not the post it is sitting on. The eye even looks pretty good. It seems to be mostly in areas of high contrast around the owl where there is white on brown.

Bill

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Apr 5, 2018 08:28:42   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
twowindsbear wrote:
How about posting a pic of something other than a bird that that shows this problem?
I would but I don't have any others to offer but the owl.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:29:27   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
DaveC1 wrote:
This is an auto focus lens with VR correct? This is also a 5.3 mp crop of the original image I see.
Yes and it is cropped.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:33:39   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Had the owl just turned its head around as the shutter released. The whole bird lacks sharpness. I’m wondering if it’s nothing more than movement. Don’t know your shutter speed. Just wondering outloud.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:34:06   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
billnourse wrote:
Were you on a tripod? If you were and did not take the lens off of VR that might have caused it. If the lens is in VR on a tripod the system tries to compensate for movement when there is none.

Odd it looks like it is only the owl that is messed up, and not the post it is sitting on. The eye even looks pretty good. It seems to be mostly in areas of high contrast around the owl where there is white on brown.

Bill


I shot this from in my vehicle. The camera was resting on a bean bag. The VR was on. Maybe it had the same effect as if it were on a tripod?

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Apr 5, 2018 08:35:35   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
Don't shoot the messenger here, but at first blush it looks like camera shake to me as well, but at 1000, unless you were sitting the camera on a lawnmower, it seems unlikely.

The second thing (the part where people may get mad at me) it looks like you tried to cut out the owl, blur the background, then paste the owl back in? The background blur looks too consistent. If you did do this, cut out the owl, use content aware to fill in where the owl was, then paste it back in.

If that's not what you did, then I apologize, it's just what it looks like to me.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:36:54   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
pesfls wrote:
Had the owl just turned its head around as the shutter released. The whole bird lacks sharpness. I’m wondering if it’s nothing more than movement. Don’t know your shutter speed. Just wondering outloud.

As I initially stated, the speed was 1/1000. It was a bit breezy but you would think that speed would freeze the feathers? Maybe not!

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Apr 5, 2018 08:42:41   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bkyser wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger here, but at first blush it looks like camera shake to me as well, but at 1000, unless you were sitting the camera on a lawnmower, it seems unlikely.

The second thing (the part where people may get mad at me) it looks like you tried to cut out the owl, blur the background, then paste the owl back in? The background blur looks too consistent. If you did do this, cut out the owl, use content aware to fill in where the owl was, then paste it back in.

If that's not what you did, then I apologize, it's just what it looks like to me.
Don't shoot the messenger here, but at first blush... (show quote)


It's all good, I did not cut and paste the bird. I don't even know how to do this.

I was wondering when the question of its authenticity of the photo would come up? It looked to me like what you observed. Cheers.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:44:10   #
twowindsbear
 
Here's my WAG:

The bird is just fuzzy around the edges - simple as that.

Or maybe 'fluffy' is a better word

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Apr 5, 2018 08:46:32   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Here's my WAG:

The bird is just fuzzy around the edges - simple as that.


Excellent! I didn't want it to be my camera.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:19:03   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Feiertag wrote:
As I initially stated, the speed was 1/1000. It was a bit breezy but you would think that speed would freeze the feathers? Maybe not!


I'm sorry I missed 1/1000th. My mistake. Doesn't seem likely that speed should have produced the effect. But the fuzziness surrounds the bird. Was it breezy? FWIW I have an 800mm manual lens and I can see the difference on setting birds between 1/1000th & 1/2000th. Anyway my error. Sorry.

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