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Apr 2, 2018 12:45:48   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JPL wrote:
There is a lot of topics here where people are asking how to upgrade their gear to be able to take better pictures. So there is truly a need for good source of info on how to get the results people are hoping for. UHH is one of the places to look for answers. Youtube is another place. Unfortunately the trend is more in the direction of helping people spend money on new gear rather than helping them learn how to use the gear they already have. And the newbees do not know what to believe, if they need a new gear or not.

Many popular Youtube cannels about photography are run by camera gear salesman with strange hair. Either it is a lot of hair, like they have never cut their hair or they are completly bold or they have boudoir white hair despite not being very old. But most of those strangely haired guys have one in common, they are telling people what gear to buy to take better photos, which in my mind is a kind of strange advice for photographers who do not know what they are doing.

I recently came across a youtube channel that is full of common sense and really good advice about how to use a digital camera and how to compose etc. and they are not focused on selling camera gear or websites, but only helping people get the good results all modern dslr and mirrorless cameras can deliver. The guy behind this youtube channel is Mike Browne. He has a "common" looking hair and that seems to go in line with common sense advice on his channel.

Would it be a good idea to collect in one topic some more of this kind of info to help people to use their gear better and use as reference for those who want to upgrade their gear because they think that is the key to improve their photograpy. The info on Mikes Browne channel alone could probably save UHH members more than million dollars a year in useless gear upgrades.

What do you think about this idea??
There is a lot of topics here where people are ask... (show quote)


Something to be said for new gear - it's new and it refreshes the novelty, and re-energizes creativity, at least to a small extent.

Spoken by the old guy with the ponytail . . .

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Apr 2, 2018 13:15:43   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Something to be said for new gear - it's new and it refreshes the novelty, and re-energizes creativity, at least to a small extent.

Spoken by the old guy with the ponytail . . .


Yes, the shiny new widget factor can be a motivational jump starter!

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Apr 2, 2018 14:18:30   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
JPL wrote:
...What do you think about this idea??


I think you should buy new gear.

Camera manufacturers take a portion of their profits and put it into research and development. R&D gives us advances in camera technology. The early digital cameras were pretty poor when you compare them to the current generation. If the camera manufacturers had not sold a lot of cameras, that R&D would have continued, but at a slower pace.

Of course you should also learn to use what you have. Computer technology has not gotten cameras to the point where they select the subjects and compose the photos yet. But if we keep buying new gear maybe they will get there sooner.

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Apr 2, 2018 14:54:36   #
srt101fan
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I think you should buy new gear.

Camera manufacturers take a portion of their profits and put it into research and development. R&D gives us advances in camera technology. The early digital cameras were pretty poor when you compare them to the current generation. If the camera manufacturers had not sold a lot of cameras, that R&D would have continued, but at a slower pace.

Of course you should also learn to use what you have. Computer technology has not gotten cameras to the point where they select the subjects and compose the photos yet. But if we keep buying new gear maybe they will get there sooner.
I think you should buy new gear. br br Camera man... (show quote)
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Do you really want future cameras to "select the subjects and compose the photos"? Or is this good ole New England humor?

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Apr 2, 2018 14:59:28   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
The best gear won't win you a Pulitzer.

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Apr 2, 2018 17:02:07   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
srt101fan wrote:
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Do you really want future cameras to "select the subjects and compose the photos"? Or is this good ole New England humor?


Ayup.

PS: if the camera selects the subject and composes the photo, the contest judges will probably be computers too.

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Apr 2, 2018 17:45:24   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
Agree completely!

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Apr 2, 2018 17:48:31   #
AlfredU Loc: Mooresville, NC
 
I have produced and sold a good many instructional videos, some of them very good, some not. But one thing they all have in common is a one way flow of information. This is ok for learning some concepts but it won't do a damn thing to help people learn to take better pictures. The only way I know of to do that is to teach the basics, give embedded assignments that provide practice on the concept being taught and then provide personal feedback to the student. Sure, it takes time and commitment. Most worthwhile things do.

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Apr 2, 2018 17:49:47   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Orange Krate wrote:
The best gear won't win you a Pulitzer.

But old gear could cause you to miss a shot that could have been winner.

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Apr 2, 2018 18:58:33   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
Will a poor musician perform any better with a more expensive guitar?
tbpmusic wrote:
It's the way our up and coming generation thinks - more expensive gear means they'll take better pictures, right?
Can't actually play the guitar? No problem, this video game can let you pretend to play.
Can't really play baseball? No sweat, this other video game lets you pretend to play.
Can't really take a decent photo ? Technology to the rescue - big bucks for gear and PP will cure that, right??

NOT !! All photographers should be required to start with a 4x5 full-movement view camera, and learn the damned basics.

And speaking of Browns, I'm waiting for our own Ed Brown (Old Hippy) to do some instructionals.........
It's the way our up and coming generation thinks -... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2018 19:12:27   #
srt101fan
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Ayup.

PS: if the camera selects the subject and composes the photo, the contest judges will probably be computers too.


Ha, Ha! Good one!

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Apr 2, 2018 20:04:25   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
JPL wrote:
There is a lot of topics here where people are asking how to upgrade their gear to be able to take better pictures. So there is truly a need for good source of info on how to get the results people are hoping for. UHH is one of the places to look for answers. Youtube is another place. Unfortunately the trend is more in the direction of helping people spend money on new gear rather than helping them learn how to use the gear they already have. And the newbees do not know what to believe, if they need a new gear or not.

Many popular Youtube cannels about photography are run by camera gear salesman with strange hair. Either it is a lot of hair, like they have never cut their hair or they are completly bold or they have boudoir white hair despite not being very old. But most of those strangely haired guys have one in common, they are telling people what gear to buy to take better photos, which in my mind is a kind of strange advice for photographers who do not know what they are doing.

I recently came across a youtube channel that is full of common sense and really good advice about how to use a digital camera and how to compose etc. and they are not focused on selling camera gear or websites, but only helping people get the good results all modern dslr and mirrorless cameras can deliver. The guy behind this youtube channel is Mike Browne. He has a "common" looking hair and that seems to go in line with common sense advice on his channel.

Would it be a good idea to collect in one topic some more of this kind of info to help people to use their gear better and use as reference for those who want to upgrade their gear because they think that is the key to improve their photograpy. The info on Mikes Browne channel alone could probably save UHH members more than million dollars a year in useless gear upgrades.

What do you think about this idea??
There is a lot of topics here where people are ask... (show quote)


The newest feature that I use is Pro Capture. This allows me to now capture up to 35 frames, in fps, before I pressed the shutter button all the way down. This allows me to be a little off in my timing of the capturing of the action and still have the picture I saw instead of the occasional slight miss of the action peak. This was not possible without my last camera upgrade.

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Apr 2, 2018 20:34:48   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I have been investing in gear for a very long time. I have equipped more than one professional studio with all kids of cameras and glass and every kind of lighting system plus complete black and white and color processing and printing facilities back in the film days. I then, later on, had to re-tool for digital photography. When you are running a business, expenditures and investments can be very critical in that all purchases and upgrades need to be justifiable financially. Even if you are not in the photography business, I can rrealte a common sense approach for all photographers.

I'm sure y'all have heard it said, the old adage, that great images can be made with very simple non-sophisticated equipment in the hands of a talented and resourceful photographer. My first boss and mentor used to say that he could make a good picture with a pinhole camera and a candle! He used to exaggerate to make his points but for the most part the old adage is true. Oftentimes, it is surprising to discover some of the most iconic images of all time, made by world class "superstar" photographers were made with very well made and reliable but rudimentary equipment.

The first step in making upgrade purchasing decisions is some honest, hard, sometimes painful introspection of your own talents, know how, photographic savvy or lack thereof. If you have decent equipment and are still bogged down with unsatisfactory work, your money would be better spent on literature, classes, workshops and other educational endeavors to troubleshoot your issues and bring yourself up to a better level of performance with your existing inventory of equipment.

If, however, you really feel, deep down, that you know what you are doing and find that your present equipment is limiting you in what you want to create or it does not enable you to perform the specialized work you aspire to, then it's time to consider additional or better gear. Obviously, if you are a photojournalist or a sports photographer you may require longer, faster lenses or bodies capable of high shutter speeds, higher and noiseless ISO settings etc. As a architectural photographer, you may need wide angle and perspective control optics. You may need lenses or accessories more appropriate to the photography that you are doing like more or or more powerful lighting gear. You may need a macro lens, a specials portrait or soft-focus lens and the list goes on.

Sometimes renting infrequently needed gear or improvising with what you have on hand will give you more insight into what you are doing and you will know when it's time to make purchases and acquire the more specialized accessories that you need once the work is ongoing and starting to come in.

The trick here is not to buy equipment based on, shall we say. "pipe dreams" but for work that you can realistically get involved in, sink your teeth into and are actually going to do. You don't need a 1200mm lens to make portraits, unless you want headshots of ferocious animals. Don't try to kill a flea with an elephant gun- kinda thing! You would be surprised what some folks buy and never really use.

If you are in the photography business, time is money, so you may wish to invest in equipment that works easier, faster and more efficiently or will increase or expedite production. In theses cases, you must carefully determine if there will be a return on you investment in a timely period. A quality improvement can also pay off in profitable returns in cases where you can make larger and sharper prints or expand your offerings an thereby increase sales.

OK, If you are independently wealthy and can afford frequent GAS attacks, want to become an equipment collector or open your own camera store, I can relate to that, otherwise let common sense prevail.

In my own case, things are more simple. I just run all my intended purchases past my wife- she runs the office, does the accounting , writes the invoices and pays the bills. She's the president and CEO/COO. I'm the chairman of the board- I was kicked upstairs long ago- they just let me take pictures!

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Apr 2, 2018 21:37:18   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
JPL wrote:
There is a lot of topics here where people are asking how to upgrade their gear to be able to take better pictures. So there is truly a need for good source of info on how to get the results people are hoping for. UHH is one of the places to look for answers. Youtube is another place. Unfortunately the trend is more in the direction of helping people spend money on new gear rather than helping them learn how to use the gear they already have. And the newbees do not know what to believe, if they need a new gear or not.

Many popular Youtube cannels about photography are run by camera gear salesman with strange hair. Either it is a lot of hair, like they have never cut their hair or they are completly bold or they have boudoir white hair despite not being very old. But most of those strangely haired guys have one in common, they are telling people what gear to buy to take better photos, which in my mind is a kind of strange advice for photographers who do not know what they are doing.

I recently came across a youtube channel that is full of common sense and really good advice about how to use a digital camera and how to compose etc. and they are not focused on selling camera gear or websites, but only helping people get the good results all modern dslr and mirrorless cameras can deliver. The guy behind this youtube channel is Mike Browne. He has a "common" looking hair and that seems to go in line with common sense advice on his channel.

Would it be a good idea to collect in one topic some more of this kind of info to help people to use their gear better and use as reference for those who want to upgrade their gear because they think that is the key to improve their photograpy. The info on Mikes Browne channel alone could probably save UHH members more than million dollars a year in useless gear upgrades.

What do you think about this idea??
There is a lot of topics here where people are ask... (show quote)


My favorite videos are Steve Perry and Mike Browne. They make taking pictures fun and informative. I believe they make the money from how many clicks that they get.
I don't know how much they make but indeed they are worth every penny.

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Apr 2, 2018 22:19:35   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
I found Ken Rockwell about 6yrs ago when I got into photography.. People either like him or not. I think he's common sense, gives good solid reviews and sensible advice. He at least earns a living through photography and has the photos to back it up.

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