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Mar 31, 2018 06:07:40   #
Bykewrydr Loc: Alberta
 
Has anyone experience using 3rd party batteries on a Fujifilm XT-1?
Cost of OEM run approx. 70/90 dollars Canadian as compared to approx. 20dollars for 2 batteries and a 2 port charger.

Also is there any chance of damaging the camera and voiding the warranty?

Thanking you in advance Peter

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Mar 31, 2018 06:32:56   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
They won't hurt the body, might not last as long as the oem, go with a popular brand. All lipos are not created equal.

Bykewrydr wrote:
Has anyone experience using 3rd party batteries on a Fujifilm XT-1?
Cost of OEM run approx. 70/90 dollars Canadian as compared to approx. 20dollars for 2 batteries and a 2 port charger.

Also is there any chance of damaging the camera and voiding the warranty?

Thanking you in advance Peter

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Mar 31, 2018 07:02:27   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Again a killer of the myth "ya get whatcha pay for" implying the more money spent the better the product. I have always use after market batteries and never had a problem. I was concerned one time because the aftermarket battery stated a higher voltage than marked on the OEM. Well the OEM was a nominal voltage vs the aftermarket stated a range. Range was based probably on degree of discharge. I researched it and eliminated concerns and still using camera and batteries ... NO PROBLEM

My bet is that many UHH sheeple [people follow like sheep]will opine totally ignoring the information below and babble on about something they were told or for the far right wing conservatives will tell you that is sinful and quote a bible verse that foretells of doom and that you are destroying jobs. Oh yes, science is confusing what they "just know in their souls." PS: Trump says Vlad the Impaler Putin recommends Russian Batteries.

Bykewrydr asked: "Also is there any chance of damaging the camera and voiding the warranty?"
Now really! If you had a problem during warranty, would you confess that it occurred when you had an after market battery in the camera?? Of course not... any designer worth their salt would have a voltage regulation ckt built in to the camera.

One review is so full of bull... I love the comment that an aftermarket battery may not hold charge in the Artic !! love that comment:
https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/1339/should-i-buy-an-original-manufacturer-battery-or-is-a-generic-brand-ok

A realistic discussion not a My Aunt Sally Said stuff... rather real...
https://strobepro.com/blogs/news/20882305-the-truth-about-camera-batteries

Here OEM lasts 1hr 28 min vs aftermarket [Watson] 1hr 9 minutes. Well big deal... the OEM is twice the price of the Aftermarket.... so $/$ 1hr 28 min vs after market 2hrs 18 minutes!
http://www.learningvideo.com/third-party-battery-test/

Realistic demo and discussion better deal is after market:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guVasy_4RIo

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Mar 31, 2018 07:08:08   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-520370-1.html

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Mar 31, 2018 07:20:23   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
DaveO wrote:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-520370-1.html

Dave you ran this UHH study and are so lazy you did not go thru and add the + and - and then just plunk down a 10 page reference to have others go thru and add up... disgusting.
Dave did you form an opinion... or did you even read the 10 pages of response or just throw this out hoping others will tell you what your UHH question said .... and do you ???? Excuse me I will remain civil, ooops too late.

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Mar 31, 2018 07:25:41   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dpullum wrote:
Dave you ran this UHH study and are so lazy you did not go thru and add the + and - and then just plunk down a 10 page reference to have others go thru and add up... disgusting.
Dave did you form an opinion... or did you even read the 10 pages of response or just throw this out hoping others will tell you what your UHH question said .... and do you ???? Excuse me I will remain civil, ooops too late.


I don't understand your gripe. I put that link up as info the OP may enjoy some of the info. If you read more slowly, you will find I was not the OP of said link. I formed no opinions and simply gave a link to a very recent battery discussion. BTW, you obviously did not read it.

Don't worry about apologizing.

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Mar 31, 2018 07:38:07   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
dpullum wrote:
Again a killer of the myth "ya get whatcha pay for" implying the more money spent the better the product. I have always use after market batteries and never had a problem. I was concerned one time because the aftermarket battery stated a higher voltage than marked on the OEM. Well the OEM was a nominal voltage vs the aftermarket stated a range. Range was based probably on degree of discharge. I researched it and eliminated concerns and still using camera and batteries ... NO PROBLEM

My bet is that many UHH sheeple [people follow like sheep]will opine totally ignoring the information below and babble on about something they were told or for the far right wing conservatives will tell you that is sinful and quote a bible verse that foretells of doom and that you are destroying jobs. Oh yes, science is confusing what they "just know in their souls." PS: Trump says Vlad the Impaler Putin recommends Russian Batteries.

Bykewrydr asked: "Also is there any chance of damaging the camera and voiding the warranty?"
Now really! If you had a problem during warranty, would you confess that it occurred when you had an after market battery in the camera?? Of course not... any designer worth their salt would have a voltage regulation ckt built in to the camera.

One review is so full of bull... I love the comment that an aftermarket battery may not hold charge in the Artic !! love that comment:
https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/1339/should-i-buy-an-original-manufacturer-battery-or-is-a-generic-brand-ok

A realistic discussion not a My Aunt Sally Said stuff... rather real...
https://strobepro.com/blogs/news/20882305-the-truth-about-camera-batteries

Here OEM lasts 1hr 28 min vs aftermarket [Watson] 1hr 9 minutes. Well big deal... the OEM is twice the price of the Aftermarket.... so $/$ 1hr 28 min vs after market 2hrs 18 minutes!
http://www.learningvideo.com/third-party-battery-test/

Realistic demo and discussion better deal is after market:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guVasy_4RIo
Again a killer of the myth "ya get whatcha pa... (show quote)


Is it really necessary to troll a thread about batteries with politics?

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Mar 31, 2018 09:55:58   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
First- Camera makers do not make batteries, they buy them from companies that do. There are about a dozen companies that make batteries. It is alsopossible that these outfits make different "quality" batteries. It is also possible that camera maker A buys batteries from different makers All that said, I have used after market batteries for 4+ years. At this moment there is a Canon and a 3rd party battery in my grip. and I can't tell one from another. I have 1 canon battery and several 3rd party as well as AAs. Maybe the 3rd party batts don't keep their charge quite as long as OEM and maybe they take a little longer to recharge, but so what. I suppose if I made my living as a potographer I would only use OEM, but I am not so I don't. Thats my take on 3rd party batts, for whatever it's worth

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Mar 31, 2018 11:10:59   #
olsonsview
 
It would be crazy for any large camera manufacturer to approve any batteries other than their own. Yeah the OEM corp. realizes that most aftermarket batteries are safe but to make any statement other than forbid them would be crazy because then the camera maker would have to honor damage caused by every battery out there with no input or control on them. Would any corporation be dumb enough to assume those risks?
So the final users must assume the risk for their own actions, and get to make the final decision: is a cheaper battery safe for his camera. As far as amp-hour ratings and voltage, those numbers are very arbitrary. There are so many ways to represent those values that even an Electrical Engineer would be stumped unless he could talk to the techs that design and build the aftermarket batteries, as well as the camera manufacturer, in order to know the correct answer. Yah roll the dice and take your chances!

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Mar 31, 2018 13:50:49   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
Check out Watson batteries.

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Mar 31, 2018 14:16:19   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
DaveO wrote:
I don't understand your gripe. I put that link up as info the OP may enjoy some of the info. If you read more slowly, you will find I was not the OP of said link. I formed no opinions and simply gave a link to a very recent battery discussion. BTW, you obviously did not read it.

Don't worry about apologizing.


Some folks like to talk, but have no need to listen as they think they know it all.

I'm glad you found that thread before I did!

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Mar 31, 2018 16:00:14   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
LWW wrote:
Is it really necessary to troll a thread about batteries with politics?

Doesn't matter much - this is one of those subjects guaranteed to generate more heat than light.

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Mar 31, 2018 17:15:55   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Let me add some insight from a separate industry.

Non OEM parts are terrible ... sometimes, they are also awesome ... sometimes.

OEM parts are built to a performance specification.

Non OEM parts are built to a fit specification and to a performance specification that is often less, but sometimes better, than an OEM part.

I have never owned a non OEM DSLR battery so I have no first hand knowledge, but I was interested in doing so the operative question IMHO would be to ask who has had good ... and bad ... experiences with what batteries.

I am confident there are good, and bad, options. This shouldn’t be an arguable point.

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Mar 31, 2018 17:30:38   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
olsonsview wrote:
It would be crazy for any large camera manufacturer to approve any batteries other than their own. Yeah the OEM corp. realizes that most aftermarket batteries are safe but to make any statement other than forbid them would be crazy because then the camera maker would have to honor damage caused by every battery out there with no input or control on them. Would any corporation be dumb enough to assume those risks?
So the final users must assume the risk for their own actions, and get to make the final decision: is a cheaper battery safe for his camera. As far as amp-hour ratings and voltage, those numbers are very arbitrary. There are so many ways to represent those values that even an Electrical Engineer would be stumped unless he could talk to the techs that design and build the aftermarket batteries, as well as the camera manufacturer, in order to know the correct answer. Yah roll the dice and take your chances!
It would be crazy for any large camera manufacture... (show quote)


Under Magnuson-Moss the maker cannot require you to use their brand replacement maintenance part, they can require you to use a part that meets their spec.

Similar to a car battery, if one looks at the specs of the OEM battery and buys a like spec part from a reputable brand they will almost certainly be fine.

If one buys the cheapest Chinese no name knockoff they are taking a risk.

I don’t use non OEM camera batteries simply because I’ve never actually had one die, so I have used a second one for my verticals grip.

IMHO the price difference between a good non OEM battery and the McCoy isn’t that much.

My $0.02, YMMV.

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Mar 31, 2018 19:18:32   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Bill_de wrote:
Some folks like to talk, but have no need to listen as they think they know it all.

I'm glad you found that thread before I did!

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There was another not long before the one I found and I would have added it so the OP could peruse the various responses.

Sometimes I answer before carefully reading something, so I'm not at all upset with anyone.

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