pamelaj wrote:
Hi there, thank you for your time and advice in advance. I have loved photography all my life, but now wanting to take it seriously and take professional portraits of families on the side, ......preferably - not do weddings, too stressful, not ready, even though I have been asked to, I know my limits! I have been researching and watching tutorials for a couple of weeks, very overwhelming for me, but learning and grasping slowly, so very much to learn, how to use manual and editing is what I need to learn the most. I have a point and shoot Sony, which I love and so many tell me to please start taking pics, even have a few clients set up for practice, but I am no where near where I need to be professionally, I just know how to pose subjects and be aware of location, for I used to own a boutique and would go on countless photo shoots with our local professionals, so I have learned a lot on the subject and posing side. With all that being said, my family and I are going to Biggs Camera in Charlotte on Friday just to see and feel all the cameras out there and what they have to offer. My Sony, for an old point and shoot does extremely well, but I see that everyone mostly talks about Nikon and Canon, does anyone shoot professionally with a Sony and find that it does everything they want it to do, or should I invest in a Nikon or Cannon? My niece let me borrow her very inexpensive Canon and I do not like it, my Sony takes better pics every single time! Budget, preferably under $1000 for everything or even less, may just look and then try to buy used elsewhere, advice on this would be great too, love you guys and thanks for letting me in your little circle of learning, I will be here a while...lol.....I think a long while. This is a pic I took of my beautiful daughter for her graduation invites, I like it, but now that I am doing research, I see that I could do so much better with a better camera and better editing, just used my Sony point and shoot with old editing that was already on my computer in JPG.......I still don't even know how to shoot and download in raw, but I am going to learn! Never even heard of it till a few weeks ago! So please be kind....lol
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Under $1000?
You're only going to find entry-level cameras and lenses, with that limited budget. Still, even entry-level cameras are capable of making fine images.
Canon and Nikon have the most extensive and comprehensive systems. That's why pros and amateurs alike tend to choose one or the other of them. Sony, Pentax and Olympus are excellent, too.... but there's less selection among them.
Go to a store and handle some different brands, to see if one or another "feels" better. Hopefully you can turn the camera on and check out the menu, see if it seems intuitive and easy to use. While you can probably learn to use any brand, it will be easier if you feel comfortable with the camera and have a head start with easier access to the controls and features it provides.
Lenses are actually a more important consideration, than the camera they are used upon. The quality and features of the lens determine how your images look... while the camera just captures what the lens is "seeing". Even the most entry-level Canon or Nikon camera is highly capable. But fitting it with the most entry-level "kit lenses" can be very limiting. Most people get it backwards, spending too much money and effort on the camera and not devoting enough of either toward their lens selection.
I'm going to recommend some Canon lenses and camera primarily because that's the system I use and so are what I'm most familiar with. You can probably find something pretty similar in Nikon. Comparing the two in a very broad sense, a Canon camera w/kit lens(es) typically will cost slightly more than a similar Nikon kit initially.... But if you look beyond that first purchase, you'll find that Nikon lenses and accessories you want to add in the future will tend to cost a little to a lot more.
Canon Rebel SL2 is one of the smallest and lightest DSLRs available, yet it's pretty full featured: 24MP, . The body alone sells for about $550, but if you are open to buying factory refurbished (same warranty as new), it's available for $440 right now at the Canon USA website. The SL2 is avail. new "in kit" with EF-S 18-55mm IS STM and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lenses for $995. Same camera with the same 18-55mm is avail. refurbished for $560. It's not being offered refurbished with a 2 lens kit. The second, telephoto 55-250mm is offered separately refurbished for $240... so you could put together a two lens kit same as new, but refurbished for $195 less. That would leave you some money towards an EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens, which would be particularly good for portraiture. That lens sells for $125 new, or is available for $90 refurbished.
Instead of the two kit lenses mentioned above, an slightly upgraded alternative is the EF-S 18-135mm IS STM, to serve as your general purpose, "walk around" lens. It's doesn't have the more powerful telephoto, but still is pretty darned good and more than enough for most portraiture work.
A lens you may find in more entry level Canon kits is the EF 75-300mm "III". I recommend avoiding it. It's Canon's cheapest zoom, simply not one of their best and not to be confused with several
70-300s Canon offers, which are much better, but more expensive. The EF-S 55-250mm IS STM mentioned above is a little more expensive but a MUCH better lens. The EF 75-300mm lacks uses slow, noisy micro motor focus drive, lacks image stabilization, and simply doesn't have all that great image quality (especially toward the 300mm end of the zoom range).
Now let me briefly explain why I'm making these recommendations....
There are cheaper and more entry-level Canon cameras.... The T6 is the most basic and least expensive. But that has 25% lower resolution (18MP) using an older sensor design. (note: a new T7 model is now coming available, a minor upgrade from T6, mostly just an upgrade to a bigger sensor... new model that's not yet avail. refurb'd or discounted)
Besides the differences in their sensors, the T6 lacks a number of other features that the SL2 has:
- Articulated LCD Touch Screen (T6's
and T7's screens are fixed and not Touch type).
- Self-cleaning sensor (T6's requires manual cleaning).
- Dual Pixel AF in Live View and Video (much faster than contrast detection the T6 uses).
- 5 frame per second continuous shooting rate ( versus 3 fps in T6
and T7).
- ISO range 100-25600, expandable to 51200 (versus 100-6400, expandable to 12800 in T6
and T7).
All the lenses I mention above are slight upgrades too... They all use STM or "stepper motor" focus drive. That's faster and quieter than the basic "micro motor" focus drive used in the most entry-level models. Canon has a offers a third type of focus drive: USM or "ultrasonic motor", which is even faster than STM and may be preferable for sports/action photography. But STM is quieter and smoother, better for video and STM should be pletny fast for portraiture. All but one of the lenses I've suggested also have IS or "image stabilization". That helps you get steady shots while hand-holding camera and lens at slower shutter speeds. The EF 50mm f/1.8 STM doesn't have IS, but has less need for it by having a larger aperture. While it's nice to have IS on any lens, it's especially useful on longer telephoto focal lengths.
In time you might want to add other lenses and/or further upgrade from the ones you have. You just don't have the budget for it now... with your limit of $1000.
For example, other Canon lenses great for portraiture on a camera like the SL2 (with it's "APS-C" size sensor) include:
- EF 50mm f/1.4 USM ($350), EF 50mm f/1.2L USM ($1450)... these are "short telephoto" on an APS-C camera, ideal for portraiture... the less expensive EF 50mm f/1.8 STM will get you started.
- EF 85mm f/1.8 USM ($350), EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM ($1600), EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM ($2000)... a slightly longer telephoto, also ideal for portraiture, tighter shots or standing a little farther away for more candid shots.
- EF 135mm f/2L USM ($1000)... a longer telephoto for portraiture.... gives a somewhat compressed look that's popular for fashion photography.
- EF 200mm f/2.8L USM II ($750), EF 200mm f/2L IS USM ($5700)... very long telephotos for portraiture w/APS-C, but popular on "full frame" cameras.
- EF 28mm f/1.8 USM ($509), EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM ($549), EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM ($549)... slightly wide lenses that can be used for "environmental portraits" but too close with them will cause distortions.
All the above are "primes"... not zooms. They all have moderate to large to very large apertures that make it possible to blur down backgrounds to make subjects stand out.
Zoom lenses can also be used of course, but those with the largest apertures are going to tend to be bigger, heavier and fairly expensive. Few zooms offer any larger than f/2.8, too. Many of the above primes offer one or two stops larger apertures in smaller, lighter, less expensive lenses. Some possible zooms for portraiture. For example:
- EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM ($880)
- EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II ($1900), EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM ($1000)
- EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM II ($1100), EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (recently discontinued, but widely avail. used for about $200).
- EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM ($1350), EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II ($2100), EF 70-200mm f/4L USM ($650), EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM ($1100).
There are also "third party" lenses from makers like Tokina, Tamron and Sigma. Some of those might be good for your purposes and less expensive than the OEM lenses like the above. Third party lens manufacturers make a lot for Canon and Nikon, usually the same item is available to fit either. They tend to offer considerably less for use on other brands of cameras. Sometimes a 3rd party lens is available that the OEM companies don't offer. For example, I use a Tamron 60mm f/2 Macro/Portrait lens on my Canon DSLRs. It costs about $550 new and is a "crop only, Di II" lens (designed for APS-C models like SL2). What I like about it is that it not only serves as a good macro lens, it's also got a stop larger aperture than most, which makes it better than them for portraiture. Plus it's 60mm focal length is right in between 50mm and 85mm, so it can take the place of both of them
and a macro lens. One lens instead of three in my camera bag! Drawback with it are that it's comparatively slow focusing (uses a micro motor, though it's not very noisy). OTOH, it's a compact, "internal focusing" design, which means it doesn't grow longer when focused closer (some macro lenses double in length).
You also may need other things such as an extra battery, memory cards, image organizing and editing software, lens hood for any that don't include them, perhaps some specialty filters, flash or other lighting gear, reflectors and flags, etc.!
With your interest in portraiture specifically, if you haven't done so already you might want to get a book or two for ideas and inspiration. One author who's books I'd recommend is Monte Zucker... he was a true master of portraiture by available light. He did a lot of family portraits and was one of the best and most sought after photographers, in his day. I'm not sure if his books are still in print, but if you find any of them used, don't hesitate.
Canon USA refurbished cameras:
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-camerasCanon USA refurbished lenses:
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/lenses-flashes/refurbished-lensesIn addition, I recommend Adorama and B&H in NYC for both new and used gear... KEH.com in Atlanta is also good for used gear. Amazon Direct can be good, but there's no one to ask questions, like there are at those other retailers. Same with discount chains like Costco and Walmart (who also tend to have little choice, mostly just some specific kits). There are other good retailers online as well as brick & mortar.... But there are also a lot of shysters on the Internet, so be VERY careful (if you see prices significantly cheaper than the above stores and websites... be VERY suspicious... "too good to be true" usually is!)
Hope this helps.
P.S. And I'm glad to hear you aren't considering shooting weddings as yet. Not only are they stressful, they also require a considerably bigger investment in gear. I'd say about 5X or 10X what you have to work with. No one should ever take on a wedding gig without at least two cameras, two flashes (we didn't even discuss lighting above, which also can be important for portraiture... though it also can be done by ambient/available light), and some of the pricier lenses listed above. There are no "do overs" with weddings... so you need to be prepared with backup gear, just in case something happens (which, for some reason, it often does). In time you might build a kit that's up to the task. But you certainly won't be anywhere close with only $1000 budget.