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Mar 26, 2018 12:00:37   #
illininitt
 
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:09:09   #
JimKing Loc: Salisbury, Maryland USA
 
I'm missing the photography and the point.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:09:28   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.

Not happy.

I did not complain, but you brought this on yourself by recommending Canon T7i every time .... even if the person was asking for FullFrame or "Super Zoom" camera. You need to understand where your camera fits into the photography universe before recommending it to others.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:10:09   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


Regardless of past service, that does not eliminate an individual for criticism.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:23:23   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


Have you been given a reason by Admin?

Your service, especially as draftee should be respected, but it does not give permission to behave 'badly' in a public forum or situation for the rest of your life. I have no idea what you did or didn't do, but there was probably a reason that caused a negative reaction. Perhaps that would be a topic to ponder.

My uncle-in-law, a 93 year old Iwo Jima vet with a purple heart is proud of his service, but never uses that status to justify his behavior. My father was also a WWII vet, and also never tried to claim any special or protected status.

For the majority of our history wars have happened and becoming a vet happened, with or without choice. Service should be respected, but it is not a justification for any kind of bad behavior.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:24:48   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
JimKing wrote:
I'm missing the photography and the point.


So did he.

Here's another prior post from the OP: "I'm an Army Vet from 06/68-06/70 (worst 2 years of my life)....Donnie said I would be treated better under his watch. Whish means....my vote counts!"

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Mar 26, 2018 12:34:31   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


Yikes, what did you say to get sent to the Attic? I never look in there, too scary and from what they tell me has nothing to do with Photography. Politics sometimes sets people off on the UHH to complaining to ADMIN.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:38:01   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
DaveO wrote:
So did he.

Here's another prior post from the OP: "I'm an Army Vet from 06/68-06/70 (worst 2 years of my life)....Donnie said I would be treated better under his watch. Whish means....my vote counts!"


Interesting, his "worst" is my best (for a number of reasons, of course there're some not-so-good involved, too).

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Mar 26, 2018 13:32:05   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


I don't know why you are banned, I stopped following your posts when you got so critical and bitter a while back.
You went out of your way to tell people how bad you thought people's pictures were and did it in a rude way. Then got hostile when someone came back at you about it.
Also you started pounding a drum about how you were mistreated by:
A. being drafted
B. being sent to Vietnam
C. apparently having problems with VA and/or health care in general
D. blaming all the recent problems on the president (you want to talk politics and trade insults join "The Attic" section, that is where all that takes place).
E. you recommended the Canon T7i (good camera but not the answer for everything) plus you kept stating that you keep your camera on Auto all
the time-that shows you aren't making much effort to improve on the tech side of photography so some decided to start throwing back an attitude much
like your own attitude
F. your more or less bragging about how much you suckered the unemployment system for - that really frosted a bunch of us - it was our tax money you
were collecting.

1. concentrate on the fun of photography and look at people's snap shots they post just to be part of a social group - not to be the next Ansel Adams
2. go back to learning more and experimenting then post those photos knowing that you are asking for criticism and suggestions to learn from - and do your
critics in a friendly/helpful manner or just look and don't comment
3. ask for help - "I have health problems and need help on how to...." Without the dramatics and complaining tone.
4. stop the constant "They done me wrong, the President isn't helping me like he said he would etc etc etc" Lots of us served in Nam, many of those were
drafted - I wasn't but my brother was (I enlisted in the regular army.), then he signed a contract as a conscientious objector who would not be sent to
Nam, picked Combat Medic for his MOS, stayed in 23 1/2 years holding a Dr's slot and doing a Dr's job his last few years before retiring.
5. I understand that your health is causing problems and probably scaring the hell out of you at times - I know mine does (I'm 72, major health problems
and 40% VA disability, at least one of my doctors thinks it should be 100%). You need to get help, join a group either formal or just some friends where
you can talk it through and learn how to cope better and live with it.
6. The photography can help by giving you something to do - since I can no longer walk as much I put in plants and feeders in my yard where I can attract
birds and butterflies, flowers and plants to photograph. I also took up macro photography and focus stacking which can be done on a table top in my
home. Learning those should keep me busy for a long time. If you like doing people and places then start gathering a list of places where you can do those kinds of photographs without much walking or even from your car. Malls, parks with driving tours/routes, parks where you can park and shoot out the car window or very close to the car. The railway museum I belong to has a lot of land and hosts events by groups like Steam Punkers, car shows and
re-enactors. I can sit up in a central location and take pictures of people as they go by with a little bit of walking in a restricted area for a change of scenes to photograph.

Oh yeah! I will throw in a definite compliment. The picture you posted of the little girl playing with the pump at a re-enactment. Charming, is it great art? -not really; but it is a pretty much a close to perfect illustration of the fun of childhood. A little girl having a great time just being a kid playing with that pump.

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Mar 26, 2018 13:37:25   #
Bill Munny Loc: Aurora, Colorado
 
Has nothing to do with you being a Vet. It is your attitude. I am a not a Vet but served for the CIA/NSA/DIA/NCS/OSS during the same period and then some. You should be happy to get Vet status/benefits which I do not. I was wounded but did not get a Purple Heart or the benefits that go with it. I do not go about denigrating others just because I do not agree with them. Lighten up and try to enjoy the few years you have left. That is your choice.

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Mar 26, 2018 14:00:42   #
jcboy3
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


No problem. We got a lot of them running around. The good ones don't use their status to complain about irrelevancies. Or think that their service was anything but a waste of time.

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Mar 26, 2018 14:07:53   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Bill Munny wrote:
Has nothing to do with you being a Vet. It is your attitude. I am a not a Vet but served for the CIA/NSA/DIA/NCS/OSS during the same period and then some. You should be happy to get Vet status/benefits which I do not. I was wounded but did not get a Purple Heart or the benefits that go with it. I do not go about denigrating others just because I do not agree with them. Lighten up and try to enjoy the few years you have left. That is your choice.


...my dad was a AVG (Flying Tiger) under Chennault pre-WWII and flew "The Hump" for CNAC for the rest of the war. He and his comrades *did* eventually get veteran status in 1991, 50 years after the fact. He didn't live to see it, but it shows the government moves slowly, but can eventually do the right thing. I hope that becomes real for you and your fellow "spooks" too...you deserve it.

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Mar 26, 2018 16:09:39   #
Bill Munny Loc: Aurora, Colorado
 
chasgroh wrote:
...my dad was a AVG (Flying Tiger) under Chennault pre-WWII and flew "The Hump" for CNAC for the rest of the war. He and his comrades *did* eventually get veteran status in 1991, 50 years after the fact. He didn't live to see it, but it shows the government moves slowly, but can eventually do the right thing. I hope that becomes real for you and your fellow "spooks" too...you deserve it.


Thanks for your kind words and possible better gov't recognition with benefits. "Spooks" are very proud of their service and are heavily trained in specific activities. Getting back into society can be very difficult, especially with the youth of today being so against any military/gov't action.

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Mar 26, 2018 16:54:06   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
illininitt wrote:
Shame on you people for complaining so much about this Vet that for a while I'm banned. I served in the Army from 06/68-06/70 not for me (I was drafted) but for you. Hope you are happy.


Let us all know who you think banned you.

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Mar 26, 2018 17:43:36   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Checkmate wrote:
Let us all know who you think banned you.


initals KKK???

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