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why hasn't the gun-ban lobby revealed these shocking facts?
Mar 25, 2018 13:18:19 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Follow the money.
It’s a strange political fact, but nearly every major anti-gun group has been a front group. The NRA is maligned 24/7 and yet it’s completely obvious whom it represents. Despite the efforts to tie it to everyone from firearms manufacturers to the Russians (if you can’t tie any random Republican thing to the Russians these days, you won’t be working at the Washington Post or CNN for very long), it represents its five million members. Anti-gun groups tend to represent shadowy networks.
Take Everytown, the noisiest and most dishonest anti-gun group on the scene. The one consistent thing about anti-gun groups is that that they are usually the opposite of what their name says they are.
Everytown for Gun Safety was formed out of two other groups: Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Both are actually front groups for Michael Bloomberg, the lefty billionaire and former boss of the Big Apple, who used New York City resources to host at least one of its websites.
So Everytown is really New York City.
March for Our Lives is on every cable channel, but who runs it? The photogenic teen fronts are out front. But it’s obvious to everyone that a bunch of teens don’t have the resources and skills to coordinate a nationwide movement. Instead it’s the experienced activists who are actually running things.
The March for Our Lives Fund is incorporated as a 501(c)(4). Donations to 501(c)(4) groups are not tax- deductible. And they don’t have to disclose donors. That’s why they’re a great dark money conduit.
But the March for Our Lives website suggests that donors who want to make a tax-deductible donation should write a check to the “March For Our Lives—Everytown Support Fund”. How will Bloomberg’s organization provide support for the supposed student group?
Why have two March for Our Lives Fund, one dark and one light? And why is one being routed through the godfather of the gun control lobby?
When it comes to March for Our Lives, the questions never end.
The March for Our Lives permit application was filed by Deena Katz, a co-executive director of the Women's March Los Angeles Foundation. This wasn’t just a little bit of professional activist assistance.
The application lists Katz as the “Person in Charge of Event”.
Katz is a former Dancing With the Stars and current Bill Maher producer. She’s also the former owner of Talent Central, a Los Angeles talent agency, The leaked application lists her as the president of the March for Our Lives Fund.
Media contacts for March for Our Lives are being handled by 42 West. The agency is a full service PR firm operating out of New York and Los Angeles that represents major celebrities. 42 West was supposedly recommended by George Clooney who was one of a number of major celebrity donors.
Where did all those millions of dollars go? Good question.
“They’re being directed by people with knowledge of how to responsibly spend this money and it’s going to be very transparent. Every penny is going to be accounted for," Jeff Kasky, the father of one of the students, claimed.
Who are those people? A leaked document reveals that the March for Our Lives Action Fund is actually overseen by six directors and is incorporated in Delaware.
So far we have Los Angeles, New York and Delaware, but not Florida.
Donations are being directed to, “March For Our Lives Fund, 16130 Ventura Blvd Ste 320, Encino, CA 91435.” That matches the listed office address on the application for the Wishnow Ross Warsavsky & Company. The tax firm appears to have no website.
The six directors learn toward Los Angeles.
There's Aileen Adams, the head of Do Good LA, who had served as the Deputy Mayor for the Office of Strategic Partnerships for Los Angeles. Adams was also UCLA's Vice Provost for Strategic Alliances.
Nor is she the only UCLA person on the list.
There's also George Kieffer, chair of UCLA's Board of Regents, who was named one of the most influential lawyers in California. He also held a variety of other political positions and headed the California State Protocol Foundation which funds expenses for Governor Jerry Brown.
Then there’s Nina Vinik who serves as the Program Director for the Gun Violence Prevention Program at the Joyce Foundation. The Joyce Foundation has been notable for its gun control efforts and it’s not surprising to find it here. The Joyce Foundation also set up the anti-gun Fund for a Safer Future.
One story claims that, "Several members of the Fund for a Safer Future are organizing internally to explore new ways of engagement in the wake of Parkland.” Another states that the Joyce Foundation, “funds research to help grantees understand how different audiences think about the issue. It's up to grantees to come up with tactics.” After Parkland, Nina wrote a militant editorial using some very familiar talking points, like, “Maybe it’s time to ask the Supreme Court about the rights of the Parkland parents to see their kids grow up.” The Joyce Foundation and Nina are based out of Chicago.
Over in Washington D.C., there's Vernetta Walker of BoardSource acting as the fund’s Secretary and Jeri Rhodes of the Friends Committee on National Legislation acting as its Treasurer.
And then out of Madison, Wisconsin, comes Melissa Scholz.
Florida is notably absent from the roll call. Instead the organization, one of a number of seeming incarnations of the March for Our Lives brand, draws on established activist talent from the usual places, Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington D.C. There’s nothing particularly local about it.
March for Our Lives is funded by Hollywood celebs, it’s led by a Hollywood producer and its finances are routed through an obscure tax firm in the Valley. Its treasurer and secretary are Washington D.C. pros. And a top funder of gun control agendas is also one of its directors.
None of this has much to do with Parkland. The mass shooting by a mentally ill man who should have been committed and arrested long before he carried out his massacre was a political opportunity.
Now that opportunity is being exploited to the hilt by a professional class of political activists.
Gun control activists wring their hands over the NRA. They claim that a special interest lobby is illegitimately thwarting the “will of the people”. Yet it’s the anti-gun groups that are invariably false fronts. It’s very clear who runs the NRA. But the latest fake anti-NRA group is a nebulous shadow. Out front are the high school students and out back are the professional activists.
And who is really behind the whole thing? Hollywood celebs, Bloomberg, a network of organizations?
We know who supports the NRA. You can see NRA stickers on car windows even in the bluest cities in the country. But who really supports the anti-gun political network? You’ll need to spend hours sorting through paperwork, following the trail, comparing addresses and researching names, to even get a hint.
That’s what an illegitimate lobby thwarting the will of the people really looks like.
Instead of March for Our Lives, maybe it’s time to March for the Truth?
It’s a strange political fact, but nearly every major anti-gun group has been a front group. The NRA is maligned 24/7 and yet it’s completely obvious whom it represents. Despite the efforts to tie it to everyone from firearms manufacturers to the Russians (if you can’t tie any random Republican thing to the Russians these days, you won’t be working at the Washington Post or CNN for very long), it represents its five million members. Anti-gun groups tend to represent shadowy networks.
Take Everytown, the noisiest and most dishonest anti-gun group on the scene. The one consistent thing about anti-gun groups is that that they are usually the opposite of what their name says they are.
Everytown for Gun Safety was formed out of two other groups: Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Both are actually front groups for Michael Bloomberg, the lefty billionaire and former boss of the Big Apple, who used New York City resources to host at least one of its websites.
So Everytown is really New York City.
March for Our Lives is on every cable channel, but who runs it? The photogenic teen fronts are out front. But it’s obvious to everyone that a bunch of teens don’t have the resources and skills to coordinate a nationwide movement. Instead it’s the experienced activists who are actually running things.
The March for Our Lives Fund is incorporated as a 501(c)(4). Donations to 501(c)(4) groups are not tax- deductible. And they don’t have to disclose donors. That’s why they’re a great dark money conduit.
But the March for Our Lives website suggests that donors who want to make a tax-deductible donation should write a check to the “March For Our Lives—Everytown Support Fund”. How will Bloomberg’s organization provide support for the supposed student group?
Why have two March for Our Lives Fund, one dark and one light? And why is one being routed through the godfather of the gun control lobby?
When it comes to March for Our Lives, the questions never end.
The March for Our Lives permit application was filed by Deena Katz, a co-executive director of the Women's March Los Angeles Foundation. This wasn’t just a little bit of professional activist assistance.
The application lists Katz as the “Person in Charge of Event”.
Katz is a former Dancing With the Stars and current Bill Maher producer. She’s also the former owner of Talent Central, a Los Angeles talent agency, The leaked application lists her as the president of the March for Our Lives Fund.
Media contacts for March for Our Lives are being handled by 42 West. The agency is a full service PR firm operating out of New York and Los Angeles that represents major celebrities. 42 West was supposedly recommended by George Clooney who was one of a number of major celebrity donors.
Where did all those millions of dollars go? Good question.
“They’re being directed by people with knowledge of how to responsibly spend this money and it’s going to be very transparent. Every penny is going to be accounted for," Jeff Kasky, the father of one of the students, claimed.
Who are those people? A leaked document reveals that the March for Our Lives Action Fund is actually overseen by six directors and is incorporated in Delaware.
So far we have Los Angeles, New York and Delaware, but not Florida.
Donations are being directed to, “March For Our Lives Fund, 16130 Ventura Blvd Ste 320, Encino, CA 91435.” That matches the listed office address on the application for the Wishnow Ross Warsavsky & Company. The tax firm appears to have no website.
The six directors learn toward Los Angeles.
There's Aileen Adams, the head of Do Good LA, who had served as the Deputy Mayor for the Office of Strategic Partnerships for Los Angeles. Adams was also UCLA's Vice Provost for Strategic Alliances.
Nor is she the only UCLA person on the list.
There's also George Kieffer, chair of UCLA's Board of Regents, who was named one of the most influential lawyers in California. He also held a variety of other political positions and headed the California State Protocol Foundation which funds expenses for Governor Jerry Brown.
Then there’s Nina Vinik who serves as the Program Director for the Gun Violence Prevention Program at the Joyce Foundation. The Joyce Foundation has been notable for its gun control efforts and it’s not surprising to find it here. The Joyce Foundation also set up the anti-gun Fund for a Safer Future.
One story claims that, "Several members of the Fund for a Safer Future are organizing internally to explore new ways of engagement in the wake of Parkland.” Another states that the Joyce Foundation, “funds research to help grantees understand how different audiences think about the issue. It's up to grantees to come up with tactics.” After Parkland, Nina wrote a militant editorial using some very familiar talking points, like, “Maybe it’s time to ask the Supreme Court about the rights of the Parkland parents to see their kids grow up.” The Joyce Foundation and Nina are based out of Chicago.
Over in Washington D.C., there's Vernetta Walker of BoardSource acting as the fund’s Secretary and Jeri Rhodes of the Friends Committee on National Legislation acting as its Treasurer.
And then out of Madison, Wisconsin, comes Melissa Scholz.
Florida is notably absent from the roll call. Instead the organization, one of a number of seeming incarnations of the March for Our Lives brand, draws on established activist talent from the usual places, Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington D.C. There’s nothing particularly local about it.
March for Our Lives is funded by Hollywood celebs, it’s led by a Hollywood producer and its finances are routed through an obscure tax firm in the Valley. Its treasurer and secretary are Washington D.C. pros. And a top funder of gun control agendas is also one of its directors.
None of this has much to do with Parkland. The mass shooting by a mentally ill man who should have been committed and arrested long before he carried out his massacre was a political opportunity.
Now that opportunity is being exploited to the hilt by a professional class of political activists.
Gun control activists wring their hands over the NRA. They claim that a special interest lobby is illegitimately thwarting the “will of the people”. Yet it’s the anti-gun groups that are invariably false fronts. It’s very clear who runs the NRA. But the latest fake anti-NRA group is a nebulous shadow. Out front are the high school students and out back are the professional activists.
And who is really behind the whole thing? Hollywood celebs, Bloomberg, a network of organizations?
We know who supports the NRA. You can see NRA stickers on car windows even in the bluest cities in the country. But who really supports the anti-gun political network? You’ll need to spend hours sorting through paperwork, following the trail, comparing addresses and researching names, to even get a hint.
That’s what an illegitimate lobby thwarting the will of the people really looks like.
Instead of March for Our Lives, maybe it’s time to March for the Truth?
Mar 25, 2018 13:20:20 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
It was more irritating than anything else.
The virtue signaling over one’s disagreement with “A March For Our Lives” reached fever pitch with the culmination of Saturday’s event.
Yet a trend across social media seemed to be playing out. If someone criticized David Hogg, Alex Wind, or Emma Gonzales there was an immediate lashing out in response. These teens and two of their comrades appear on this week’s cover of TIME magazine. Two weeks ago they traveled to Dubai to be part of an international symposium on education. They have sucked up nearly every available second of possible air time on CNN & MSNBC (while obviously avoiding actual journalism.) They’ve also had ample amounts of cash and exposure thrown their way.
Saturday’s march was to be the pinnacle of this outrage movement that has largely been propped up by false pretense.
These young people—immediately thrown into one of the most manipulated controversies of our time—are angry, opportunistic and—just a month after their classmates were needlessly lost—now instant celebrities.
Even though they have little more than a junior high level of education under their belt. The political left, driven by a leftist media, and financed by uber-rich and hard-left celebrities are willing to use them, and to continue to use them to advance their socialist utopia ideals. (One of the primary ideas of which has always included disarming the masses.)
Even though first year grad school students have literally multiple times the actual knowledge on the issues pertaining to the social science of guns, their effects, and the good and bad attributed to their owners, the lazy media continue to treat these five kids as though they have PHD’s.
If anyone questions it, the virtue signaling begins.
But to what good?
The moralizing and lecturing from these manipulated teens has gone roughly as far as it will go. David Hogg doesn’t believe it of course. Hence his continued threats towards legislators in this election cycle promising to oust those who do “nothing.”
Catch Hogg in a more intimate setting (like the video that went viral late this week) and you see a much less measured maniac, cursing vulgarity with hubris unchecked basically advocating that teens shouldn’t just be in charge of gun policy, but even control of all internet devices. Because… parents are stupid. (Marxist much?)
Never mind that the March offered no concrete plan to make our schools safe. It couldn’t. That would require a focus on the actual schools, their current security set-ups, and asking questions like, “In the side by side of two school shootings in Florida and Maryland, why were the outcomes so different?”
Instead Hogg and his belligerent band of media hyped know-nothings spout their misunderstood self-researched “facts,” lead chants of “enough is enough,” and then play the untouchables when someone calls them on their inaccuracies.
It is not a “personal attack” on these kids to say that they are “misinformed, arrogant, and misguided.” It’s a statement of fact. And the moment they accepted a litany of interviews for CNN their ideas became fair game.
It is certainly the opposite of “personal attacks" if the policies they are trying to gather steam for (banning of certain types of instruments, advocating for ages of legality, all while mix-minusing the moral question) are ones that will put more children (like mine) at greater risk in years to come.
You don’t get to use your victimization (as real as it was) to advocate for an even less safe school for my children.
The truth is Saturday’s “historic” and “record breaking” march had barely more in turn out than some annual marches held in Washington every year. For instance the (not to be confused by its much longer standing moniker) “March For Life” turns out a crowd roughly the same size in DC every January and has since 1974. Technically that’s millions more marchers and mostly silence from media.
The DC police refused to release numbers on Saturday, but the Washington Metro only reported a slight bump in usage, where in 2017 with the “Women’s March” they reported a more than doubling of normal Saturday Metro usage.
We adults who see these kids' earnestness have allowed them time to (if they so wished) mourn in private. Many of their fellow classmates at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School strongly disagree with everything the “fab five” (as they’ve been coined on twitter) are up to. One quite articulate kid, Kyle Kashuv, was specifically targeted and banned from participating because his ideas didn’t line up with the overly emotive and misguided memes the others have been advancing.
They can’t have it both ways.
These are kids who should be granted all the room in the world to grieve, mourn, and get good counsel. Or they are public opinion shapers who are ready to defend what they believe.
The money wasted on the spectacle in Washington should have gone to simple ideas like metal detectors, personnel, training and certification for our schools to handle threats as they appear.
Saturday saved no one, helped no one, and only served to further the false notion that these kids should be doing homework instead of being treated like Nobel nominees.
Lastly, let’s also be done with all the “moral high ground” positioning.
Hogg reminded everyone on Saturday that the hashtag for their cause is #NotOneMore. He then cited 96 gun deaths per day in America (not just of kids but of gun users of all ages.) Meanwhile in abortion clinics across America each day (according to the Guttmacher Institute - the research propaganda machine for Planned Parenthood) 2635 children’s lives are ended due to legal abortion.
The moral dissonance is deafening. The slogan is hypocritical. The icons are babies.
It’s time to stop manipulating them, allow them to finish their high school experience, and address the real issues.
The virtue signaling over one’s disagreement with “A March For Our Lives” reached fever pitch with the culmination of Saturday’s event.
Yet a trend across social media seemed to be playing out. If someone criticized David Hogg, Alex Wind, or Emma Gonzales there was an immediate lashing out in response. These teens and two of their comrades appear on this week’s cover of TIME magazine. Two weeks ago they traveled to Dubai to be part of an international symposium on education. They have sucked up nearly every available second of possible air time on CNN & MSNBC (while obviously avoiding actual journalism.) They’ve also had ample amounts of cash and exposure thrown their way.
Saturday’s march was to be the pinnacle of this outrage movement that has largely been propped up by false pretense.
These young people—immediately thrown into one of the most manipulated controversies of our time—are angry, opportunistic and—just a month after their classmates were needlessly lost—now instant celebrities.
Even though they have little more than a junior high level of education under their belt. The political left, driven by a leftist media, and financed by uber-rich and hard-left celebrities are willing to use them, and to continue to use them to advance their socialist utopia ideals. (One of the primary ideas of which has always included disarming the masses.)
Even though first year grad school students have literally multiple times the actual knowledge on the issues pertaining to the social science of guns, their effects, and the good and bad attributed to their owners, the lazy media continue to treat these five kids as though they have PHD’s.
If anyone questions it, the virtue signaling begins.
But to what good?
The moralizing and lecturing from these manipulated teens has gone roughly as far as it will go. David Hogg doesn’t believe it of course. Hence his continued threats towards legislators in this election cycle promising to oust those who do “nothing.”
Catch Hogg in a more intimate setting (like the video that went viral late this week) and you see a much less measured maniac, cursing vulgarity with hubris unchecked basically advocating that teens shouldn’t just be in charge of gun policy, but even control of all internet devices. Because… parents are stupid. (Marxist much?)
Never mind that the March offered no concrete plan to make our schools safe. It couldn’t. That would require a focus on the actual schools, their current security set-ups, and asking questions like, “In the side by side of two school shootings in Florida and Maryland, why were the outcomes so different?”
Instead Hogg and his belligerent band of media hyped know-nothings spout their misunderstood self-researched “facts,” lead chants of “enough is enough,” and then play the untouchables when someone calls them on their inaccuracies.
It is not a “personal attack” on these kids to say that they are “misinformed, arrogant, and misguided.” It’s a statement of fact. And the moment they accepted a litany of interviews for CNN their ideas became fair game.
It is certainly the opposite of “personal attacks" if the policies they are trying to gather steam for (banning of certain types of instruments, advocating for ages of legality, all while mix-minusing the moral question) are ones that will put more children (like mine) at greater risk in years to come.
You don’t get to use your victimization (as real as it was) to advocate for an even less safe school for my children.
The truth is Saturday’s “historic” and “record breaking” march had barely more in turn out than some annual marches held in Washington every year. For instance the (not to be confused by its much longer standing moniker) “March For Life” turns out a crowd roughly the same size in DC every January and has since 1974. Technically that’s millions more marchers and mostly silence from media.
The DC police refused to release numbers on Saturday, but the Washington Metro only reported a slight bump in usage, where in 2017 with the “Women’s March” they reported a more than doubling of normal Saturday Metro usage.
We adults who see these kids' earnestness have allowed them time to (if they so wished) mourn in private. Many of their fellow classmates at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School strongly disagree with everything the “fab five” (as they’ve been coined on twitter) are up to. One quite articulate kid, Kyle Kashuv, was specifically targeted and banned from participating because his ideas didn’t line up with the overly emotive and misguided memes the others have been advancing.
They can’t have it both ways.
These are kids who should be granted all the room in the world to grieve, mourn, and get good counsel. Or they are public opinion shapers who are ready to defend what they believe.
The money wasted on the spectacle in Washington should have gone to simple ideas like metal detectors, personnel, training and certification for our schools to handle threats as they appear.
Saturday saved no one, helped no one, and only served to further the false notion that these kids should be doing homework instead of being treated like Nobel nominees.
Lastly, let’s also be done with all the “moral high ground” positioning.
Hogg reminded everyone on Saturday that the hashtag for their cause is #NotOneMore. He then cited 96 gun deaths per day in America (not just of kids but of gun users of all ages.) Meanwhile in abortion clinics across America each day (according to the Guttmacher Institute - the research propaganda machine for Planned Parenthood) 2635 children’s lives are ended due to legal abortion.
The moral dissonance is deafening. The slogan is hypocritical. The icons are babies.
It’s time to stop manipulating them, allow them to finish their high school experience, and address the real issues.
Mar 26, 2018 09:19:23 #
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Mar 26, 2018 15:37:11 #
two post that example the efforts of pro gunners to put down anyone for tighter gun controls. those post were not written off the cuff by average members.
Mar 26, 2018 22:16:22 #
There ARE mental issues that need to be addressed. Agreed. Hope they tread lightly here. 2nd Amendment has instilled in it “not to be infringed upon” and most anyone who knows,respects,and has sworn an oath to OUR Constitution,will be watching.
Mar 26, 2018 22:20:28 #
bull drink water wrote:
two post that example the efforts of pro gunners to put down anyone for tighter gun controls. those post were not written off the cuff by average members.
Always attack the messenger when you can't argue the facts.
Mar 26, 2018 22:36:07 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
bull drink water wrote:
two post that example (sic) the efforts of pro gunners ... those post were not written off the cuff by average members.
The article is well-researched. Too bad facts and insight offend you. You attack me for sharing instead of addressing the facts.
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