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Major Crop with D850 Med RAW Setting
Mar 18, 2018 10:34:31   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
I was shooting quite a few picture yesterday while participating in General Granbury parade. Our city, Granbury was named after General Granbury and yesterday was his birthday. Each year the city throughs a big party with a parade through town.
Two weeks ago I got my new Nikon D850 and have been experimenting with it quite a bit. Was talking to a pro photographer friend of mine and we were discussing the merits of the different size raw files you can set with the camera. He thinks unless you are going to print a large format photo there is no need to use the large raw setting. Yesterday since most of the shots that I would be taking were just snaps so I thought I would try the middle setting reducing the megs to 29-32 instead of 46. The first picture is full size 20 x 14 from that middle setting. The second obviously had a lot of Photoshop done to it and is cropped and you are seeing a 7.5 x 7.5 image.
Any thoughts?
--Jim

Full raw file is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieohzqt5hrnoj5b/850_0336.nef?dl=0


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Mar 18, 2018 10:57:20   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Too much Photoshopping for a good test of the D850.
I'd like to see a bird photographed far away so it is small in the frame, then, that same shot cropped in on to fill the frame and compared. That's the test I'd like to see for the D850.

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Mar 18, 2018 12:13:40   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I leave the RAW file size on the D850 to full size. I posted a panorama of Zabriskie Point in Death Valley ( http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-519130-1.html ), that has a Cannon with a 70-200 Series L lens on a tripod. On my monitor, I can zoom into the white lens body and just about read the markings. Pixels are free, why limit your camera so a smaller files size?

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Mar 18, 2018 12:52:01   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I saw your shot. Can you show us a crop like you describe?
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I leave the RAW file size on the D850 to full size. I posted a panorama of Zabriskie Point in Death Valley ( http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-519130-1.html ), that has a Cannon with a 70-200 Series L lens on a tripod. On my monitor, I can zoom into the white lens body and just about read the markings. Pixels are free, why limit your camera so a smaller files size?

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Mar 18, 2018 14:40:07   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I saw your shot. Can you show us a crop like you describe?


I didn't blow up or reduce anything. I am stating the print size when 1 to 1. If you want to see the original raw file go to my dropbox and download the file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieohzqt5hrnoj5b/850_0336.nef?dl=0

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Mar 18, 2018 16:45:11   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I saw your shot. Can you show us a crop like you describe?


This is a 2362x733 crop of a 5504x8256 original - pre merging into panorama


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Mar 18, 2018 17:36:03   #
Acountry330 Loc: Dothan,Ala USA
 
Why limit your self to small files? you can always resize. Enjoy your new 850. Happy shooting.

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Mar 19, 2018 07:41:24   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I was shooting quite a few picture yesterday while participating in General Granbury parade. Our city, Granbury was named after General Granbury and yesterday was his birthday. Each year the city throughs a big party with a parade through town.
Two weeks ago I got my new Nikon D850 and have been experimenting with it quite a bit. Was talking to a pro photographer friend of mine and we were discussing the merits of the different size raw files you can set with the camera. He thinks unless you are going to print a large format photo there is no need to use the large raw setting. Yesterday since most of the shots that I would be taking were just snaps so I thought I would try the middle setting reducing the megs to 29-32 instead of 46. The first picture is full size 20 x 14 from that middle setting. The second obviously had a lot of Photoshop done to it and is cropped and you are seeing a 7.5 x 7.5 image.
Any thoughts?
--Jim

Full raw file is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieohzqt5hrnoj5b/850_0336.nef?dl=0
I was shooting quite a few picture yesterday while... (show quote)

A fill flash on the first shot would have been nice.

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Mar 21, 2018 20:44:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I was shooting quite a few picture yesterday while participating in General Granbury parade. Our city, Granbury was named after General Granbury and yesterday was his birthday. Each year the city throughs a big party with a parade through town.
Two weeks ago I got my new Nikon D850 and have been experimenting with it quite a bit. Was talking to a pro photographer friend of mine and we were discussing the merits of the different size raw files you can set with the camera. He thinks unless you are going to print a large format photo there is no need to use the large raw setting. Yesterday since most of the shots that I would be taking were just snaps so I thought I would try the middle setting reducing the megs to 29-32 instead of 46. The first picture is full size 20 x 14 from that middle setting. The second obviously had a lot of Photoshop done to it and is cropped and you are seeing a 7.5 x 7.5 image.
Any thoughts?
I was shooting quite a few picture yesterday while... (show quote)

I've read through this entire thread several times, and I still don't understand what the camera does to "crop" a 'raw' file - is this different from "putting into crop mode", i.e., eliminating some of the sensor - making it act like a D500??

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Mar 21, 2018 20:58:11   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
rehess wrote:
I've read through this entire thread several times, and I still don't understand what the camera does to "crop" a 'raw' file - is this different from "putting into crop mode", i.e., eliminating some of the sensor - making it act like a D500??


You can select different image areas, which have the effect of cropping a file in camera: Fx 36x24, Dx 24x16. It's on page 83 of the D850 manual.

Who writes these camera manuals? Must be a Committee.

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