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Mar 18, 2018 15:13:04   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
First, photographs should ALWAYS be matted... never in direct contact with glass or plastic. If left in contact, they will eventually be ruined.

When I was selling a lot of prints, I either fully matted and framed them or offered unframed, in a mat and a plastic sleeve for protection. I bought archival mats online in bulk from matcutter.com and got sleeves in various sizes in bulk from a couple sources, too.

Frames I bought mostly from Aaron Brothers. I haven't bought lately, so am not sure if they still do, but they used to have a 1 cent sale twice a year or so. Buy one frame at regular price and get a second that's regularly priced the same or less for 1 cent! Basically it was a two for one deal. Frames came complete with glass in a wide variety of standard sizes. Some even came with mats. This often worked out to costing $10 to $15 to frame an 8x10 print to an 11x14 frame or a little more to frame an 11x14 print to a 16x20 frame, for example.

For the large part I avoided odd size prints that would have required custom matting and framing. Those get quite expensive (I did custom framing in a shop for a number of years when I was in college). There's a large selection of of standard size mats and frames available anyway, so this was never a problem. The largest prints I made were 16x20 (I had to outsource those, the largest I can print at home are 12x18). Most of my color prints were done on 100% rag, smooth matte papers. Black & white I prefer to print on luster or semi-gloss paper of similar archival quality. Unless a customer specifically requested otherwise I only used standard glass... UV "museum glass" adds a lot of cost. I don't like and usually don't use "non-reflective" glass. It significantly reduces image contrast, color saturation and sharpness.... plus it's expensive!

Profit margins weren't great though... and the shop I did most of my sales through closed it's doors several years ago after a big rent increase from the landlord. So I haven't been selling a lot of prints and am not sure if Aaron Bros is still doing those sales and prices might have increased a bit.
First, photographs should ALWAYS be matted... neve... (show quote)


Yes, Aaron Bros still do their $.01 sale twice a year. It can be good for someone who just wants to frame a few pieces for home or an occasional sale. If, however, one is selling a higher volume (art fairs, galleries) a wholesale account with a frame supplier will often provide higher quality at yet a lower cost.

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Mar 18, 2018 17:02:22   #
Tinkwmobile
 
dpullum wrote:
I have yet to see a degree or certification in "Picture framing. ! ! " Nor one who had dedicated there life to picking out the best frame for someone else's art work. The frame is part of the art and thus very personal and .... $ spent does not + correctness. At times a simple wrap is preferred to a confining frame. With me, that would be most of the time.


Link to professional picture framers with certification

http://www.ppfa.com/

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Mar 18, 2018 17:05:04   #
Tinkwmobile
 
Solve your issue with no frames. Print to canvas and stretch on museum wrap, 1 1/2 thickness or print to metal. Both look classy and are valid alternatives.

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Mar 18, 2018 17:13:38   #
Capn_Dave
 
jwn wrote:
for judged art show , the higher the grouping (novice, , advanced, pro) the better the presentation should be, ie pro needs professional frame, novice dollar store is ok.


Does that mean it will take longer to see a photo covered in plastic because the waviness causes the light to take longer to get to the eye?

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Mar 18, 2018 17:15:47   #
Capn_Dave
 
Does that mean it will take longer to see a photo covered in plastic because the waviness causes the light to take longer to get to the eye?

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Mar 18, 2018 18:46:04   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Jamers wrote:
I have seen many fine photos ruined by poor/cheep frames and matting. I agree, let a pro do it.


Half the fun is matting and framing yourself

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Mar 18, 2018 22:16:04   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
Opinions,,,,, I sell my pictures using 8x10's and putting them in dollar store frames. Explaining that its a safe way for them to get it home and they can re-frame themselves. works for me and I do ok. But what about upping the product. Using 11x14 quality frames and using metal prints. This would allow them to take it home and hang it. MY cost to produce dollar store one is one dollar and 68 cents. Going the higher quality route would change my costs to about $20+ per print. long question shortened. better to sell more at a lower cost and sell more, or sell less at a higher cost. So, if you are taking your work to an art show, what would you do? sorry for rambling, but its 2am and I am at work
Opinions,,,,, I sell my pictures using 8x10's and... (show quote)

Your prices should reflect the quality of your work. And your quality of presentation can be the reason why a photo sells!

Looks like you started small and cheap and would like to move up. As OP have said, the frames don't have to be custom or expensive, they just have to be attractive. And matting is essential. As for glass, UV protection is important, and although "Museum Glass" is very expensive it can make a difference. I don't like the reflections when I am displaying, but at home it is not really an issue. Eventually my plan is to try a few smaller framed images with "Museum Glass" and see what happens.

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Mar 24, 2018 16:21:59   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
I order frames from Quadro frames...and I buy glass clip frames...the 11x14 frames run about $24 for six frames. That includes the glass, the back board and the clips. If you want a mat, you can buy general sizes quite inexpensively to keep cost down. There are no hangers on the back of the frames so I use picture hanging wire and hot glue to secure it. They end up looking quite professional for the amount of money spent.

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