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Mar 16, 2018 09:24:00   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
You could consider doing some vertical panoramas for the really grand views, but then you might need a tripod. Maybe rent one when you get there.

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Mar 16, 2018 09:24:51   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Because of its smaller size, Fuji might be the perfect system for traveling.

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Mar 16, 2018 09:27:30   #
cdayton
 
markngolf wrote:
I continue to plan my long awaited River Cruise on the Danube - Prague to Budapest next August. Ideally, I'd like to bring my desktop and all my photography equipment!
However, Lufthansa and TSA have suggested I pair down. Most UHHer's have suggested I travel with lighter equipment than my Canon 5D MIII and three lenses. My concern, in addition to making the trip enjoyable, is image quality. I'm leaning towards the Sony RX10 IV, either renting or purchasing.

Here's my concern: Will the 24 mm be sufficiently wide to capture the grandeur of the castles and scenes?
Thanks,
Mark
I continue to plan my long awaited River Cruise on... (show quote)

I think the Sony is a good choice. I’ve done Rhine/Mosel cruises twice - D300 with 18-200 first time and P900 second time. I think the 24mm equiv will be fine for interior shots and you will use the long reach a lot when shooting from the boat.

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Mar 16, 2018 09:30:46   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Not having been on that type of tour I don't have a feel for what angle is needed so I will have to just advise what I would do.
I have a 14-24 lens that provides very wide angle shots on my FX body. I rarely use it. It's bulky and hard to carry so I usually leave it home.
Most of the wide angle shots I do are static, so I use my 24-70 at 24 and take several overlapping shots and stitch.
If you're on a river cruise and the boat is moving you just have to take the shots as quickly as possible to minimize perspective changes. Since you will not be really close to the subject the perspective changes should not be quick.
I find that 90% of the time I can take hand-held shots of a panorama and the stitching will come out OK. But it does miss occasionally so for important shots I take 2 pano sets.

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Mar 16, 2018 09:43:59   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I understand. I hope and expect to have both. Still deciding.
Thanks, Sarg.
Mark
ole sarg wrote:
You want to have fun or fiddle with your camera?

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Mar 16, 2018 09:57:54   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Mark you can only answer that question. You know that a wide angle requires to get closer to the subject since it tends to stretch the background. 24mm is all the wide angle many photographers need but others will go wider depending on their needs. The wider I go is with my Nikon 12-24 f4 AF-S that I use with my DX and FX bodies. When on FX I can go 16-24mm without vignetting and for my needs that has been more than enough. I guess it depends on the user.
Try the lens on some architecture photography and you can have a good idea if the lens will fit your purpose or try that same focal length with a full frame and see if that satisfies your needs. 24mm with a cropped body you know will not end up been 24mm.

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Mar 16, 2018 10:05:06   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
What has worked for you in the past for taking similar pictures, e.g., wide-angle landscape. I'd take what has worked best for me. Maybe you, too?

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Mar 16, 2018 10:05:20   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Yes, I do know that and appreciate the feedback.
Mark
camerapapi wrote:
Mark you can only answer that question. You know that a wide angle requires to get closer to the subject since it tends to stretch the background. 24mm is all the wide angle many photographers need but others will go wider depending on their needs. The wider I go is with my Nikon 12-24 f4 AF-S that I use with my DX and FX bodies. When on FX I can go 16-24mm without vignetting and for my needs that has been more than enough. I guess it depends on the user.
Try the lens on some architecture photography and you can have a good idea if the lens will fit your purpose or try that same focal length with a full frame and see if that satisfies your needs. 24mm with a cropped body you know will not end up been 24mm.
Mark you can only answer that question. You know t... (show quote)

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Mar 16, 2018 10:22:59   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Thanks for the response. Ultimately, it is MY decision and once made, I'll be content.
Mark
revhen wrote:
What has worked for you in the past for taking similar pictures, e.g., wide-angle landscape. I'd take what has worked best for me. Maybe you, too?

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Mar 16, 2018 10:24:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Shots from the boat would be fine with the 24mm but if you are up close to, say, a cathedral, it may not be wide enough... I've had that issue.

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Mar 16, 2018 10:24:27   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
markngolf wrote:
I continue to plan my long awaited River Cruise on the Danube - Prague to Budapest next August. Ideally, I'd like to bring my desktop and all my photography equipment!
However, Lufthansa and TSA have suggested I pair down. Most UHHer's have suggested I travel with lighter equipment than my Canon 5D MIII and three lenses. My concern, in addition to making the trip enjoyable, is image quality. I'm leaning towards the Sony RX10 IV, either renting or purchasing.

Here's my concern: Will the 24 mm be sufficiently wide to capture the grandeur of the castles and scenes?
Thanks,
Mark
I continue to plan my long awaited River Cruise on... (show quote)


Last summer I did a river cruise from Budapest to Amsterdam. On my crop sensor Canon 60D I used my Tamron 18-270. (The only lens I ever travel with.) at the wide end it is approximately equal to 27-28 mm on your full frame. I had no problem. You will be fine with 24mm.
Steve

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Mar 16, 2018 10:32:37   #
ronsipus Loc: Mission Viejo, CA
 
We did the exact trip last year and I took my Nikon D700 and Nikon 28-300 and was very pleased with the results.

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Mar 16, 2018 10:46:27   #
pappleg
 
Mark, I agree with JPL for that trip(we did it in 2015) lean towards wider and your Tamron should do fine. At the time I had a NikonD7100 with 18-300 and was wishing for something wider. Rather than Castles you will encounter more Cathedrals. See attached pic of St Matthias in Budapest as representative. Due to the contrast range from shadows to windows I did a 3 bracket HDR to capture the range. You will love this trip-Prague is amazing. Enjoy.
markngolf wrote:
JPL,

I do have a Tamron 17 - 35mm f/2.8 and a Canon 24 - 70mm f/2.8 II. I'm starting to think my Canon 5D MIII, Canon 70 - 200 f/2.8 II and the previously mentioned lenses are the best ticket. The only problem I have is the weight of "lugging" it around all day(s). That's a lot of stuff to carry. I have carried it on all other trips in a backpack, but I'm 81 now. I don't want my enjoyment of the trip to be encumbered by my "stuff". That's why I'm still considering the Sony RX10 IV. Maybe my iPhone 7 Plus with a bracket and monopod for wide angle? I have 4 1/2 months to decide and learn how to effectively use the iPhone.

Thank you so much for the feedback. I follow your posts - always positive, knowledgeable & helpful!! You are definitely one of the "good guys on UHH".
Mark
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Mar 16, 2018 10:46:46   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Mark, Mark, Mark! Relax! You will do just fine by the Sony. If you have any qualms, just get on to flickr and look up that model. You will be very impressed and your question will be answered. Just do the usual; take a bunch of serious tests shots beforehand to familiarize with the settings and all. The 24mp is non issue. It is that good of a camera! You can even shoot in Jpeg all day long and not worry about it. Oh, and don't worry about the rapid fire stuff. You will do just fine using your index finger as a bump stock. I am speaking from experience.

Tom

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Mar 16, 2018 10:51:18   #
b roll wanabee
 
I a suprised that so many people say you don't need an ultra wide angle lense. 24 mm is not wide enough for me. Especially in churches and in the narrow confines of these old cities.

Taking pictures of buildings is also much easier with an ultra wide.

If you don't have a lense wide or wider than your cell phone I think you are missing some of best parts of photography.
Especially with that 5dmk3.

Bring all your stuff insure it. Do some time lapses out your window. Bring a compact camera when you dont want to look like a complete tourist. Go nuts

Have a great trip

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