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Mar 10, 2018 10:04:56   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Two main reasons I like more pixels. 1) to crop 2) to print large pictures. I sell 24X36 and 30X40 and at 30X40 its a problem at times with a 5D IX

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Mar 10, 2018 10:19:50   #
sidpearce
 
After using Nikon F film cameras for many years, my first digital camera was a Nikon 5000. This was a 7 megapixel camera. I printed hundreds of A3 images which won me many acceptances in international competitions

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Mar 10, 2018 11:15:17   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
I do not have personal experience with the 42 mp Sony or the 50 mp Canon 5D S R. One important consideration I have read about is that with these high mp cameras, the very best quality lenses are important. So along with the higher prices for the bodies, you will need to plan on buying the best glass, so if budget is a consideration, staying with 24 mp bodies may make sense.

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Mar 10, 2018 11:46:59   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
As I noted when moving from 35 mm to Medium Forman: “the more data, the better.”

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Mar 10, 2018 12:06:49   #
Angmo
 
MikeMc wrote:
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. I will shoot landscapes, street scenes, family activities. I’d concluded that the 24 MP a7iii would be the best choice but a salesman at Best Buy makes the point that I might need the 42 mp of the a7Rxxx for cropping photos. I won’t be printing large images, mostly veiwing via hi def monitor. There are a couple minor differences from the a7R to the a7 like touch screen, larger battery, etc but 42 vs 24 mp seems to be the most significant. Will the mega pixel size matter?
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. ... (show quote)


Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but relax.

Its so much more than a camera. Of course the camera is an important aspect, but there is so much more. Much much more...

...your post processing skills. What you see for a shoot, your vision, planning, set design, listening to your heart and your clients desires. Seeing the end result in your mind and using your tools to create that vision. Seeing the light. Creativity.... ya! a camera matters but is in no way ever a primary concern.

You can take a 10 Year old 12 megapixel camera and never get close to its true level of quality or do it any justice at all.

Heres an example I posted here before with a 10 year old 12 megapixel camera. With a 23 year old lens bought in 1995.

So don’t sweat pixels or anything else. I’ll be getting a new camera soon and place this one in backup due to age. Not pixels. Ive produced full poster size prints for clients with zero effort on the pixels part.

Meanwhile, I’m getting a continuously excellent return on investment. And most important - very happy clients who love the results and could care less about that greasy pixel stuff.



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Mar 10, 2018 12:46:14   #
Boris Ekner Loc: From Sweden, living in Guatemala
 
MikeMc wrote:
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. I will shoot landscapes, street scenes, family activities. I’d concluded that the 24 MP a7iii would be the best choice but a salesman at Best Buy makes the point that I might need the 42 mp of the a7Rxxx for cropping photos. I won’t be printing large images, mostly veiwing via hi def monitor. There are a couple minor differences from the a7R to the a7 like touch screen, larger battery, etc but 42 vs 24 mp seems to be the most significant. Will the mega pixel size matter?
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. ... (show quote)



This is how large Jim Stascavage printed a 24MP photo. Regarding your question, I trust you can draw your own conclusions...



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Mar 10, 2018 12:58:37   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Despite all the hype and BS, 24mp are good enough for just about everything. And that's the truth. Some of the highest rated cameras have even less.


I agree 100 percent!! Finally a rational answer to this crazy megapixel. Don’t go chasing megapixels 99 percent of people don’t need to do that😉

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Mar 10, 2018 12:59:59   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Bill_de wrote:
When marketing pushes megapixel counts to 100, you will have people telling you that 50 megapixels is OK if you are only going to view your images on your monitor. They don't know what they are talking about, but eating up the hype and spewing BS.

The $6,500 Nikon D5 has a 20 megapixel sensor. I guess the images from those cameras are only good for viewing on your flip phone.

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👍👍👍👍

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Mar 10, 2018 13:01:20   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Angmo wrote:
Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but relax.

Its so much more than a camera. Of course the camera is an important aspect, but there is so much more. Much much more...

...your post processing skills. What you see for a shoot, your vision, planning, set design, listening to your heart and your clients desires. Seeing the end result in your mind and using your tools to create that vision. Seeing the light. Creativity.... ya! a camera matters but is in no way ever a primary concern.

You can take a 10 Year old 12 megapixel camera and never get close to its true level of quality or do it any justice at all.

Heres an example I posted here before with a 10 year old 12 megapixel camera. With a 23 year old lens bought in 1995.

So don’t sweat pixels or anything else. I’ll be getting a new camera soon and place this one in backup due to age. Not pixels. Ive produced full poster size prints for clients with zero effort on the pixels part.

Meanwhile, I’m getting a continuously excellent return on investment. And most important - very happy clients who love the results and could care less about that greasy pixel stuff.
Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but r... (show quote)


I thought that was a beautiful photo of a beautiful woman. Now that I know it was taken with a 10 year old 12 megapixel camera I'm not so sure about the photo. That's why we need EXIF data posted with each picture.

Of course, she is still a beautiful woman, and no camera can change that.

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Mar 10, 2018 13:14:37   #
Angmo
 
Bill_de wrote:
I thought that was a beautiful photo of a beautiful woman. Now that I know it was taken with a 10 year old 12 megapixel camera I'm not so sure about the photo. That's why we need EXIF data posted with each picture.

Of course, she is still a beautiful woman, and no camera can change that.

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Lol. Back in the film days - THE - question was *what filter did you use*. EXIF? After PP, shutter speed is the only truth teller. Even aperture can be emulated for depth of field. Bokeh of any lens can be selected.

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Mar 10, 2018 13:17:44   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
MikeMc wrote:
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. I will shoot landscapes, street scenes, family activities. I’d concluded that the 24 MP a7iii would be the best choice but a salesman at Best Buy makes the point that I might need the 42 mp of the a7Rxxx for cropping photos. I won’t be printing large images, mostly veiwing via hi def monitor. There are a couple minor differences from the a7R to the a7 like touch screen, larger battery, etc but 42 vs 24 mp seems to be the most significant. Will the mega pixel size matter?
Debating between a Sony a7iii or a7Rii or a7Riii. ... (show quote)


Which of those two sensors are full frame? Are the cameras just using the same sensor on each and the larger sensor is the 42 mpx while the smaller sensor is 24mpx? I have found that the only difference between the two the 24 mpx and full frame 36mpx is their physical size. If they are the same pixels per square inch then if you have more pixels per square inch you will have the better the resolution. Besides the guys at best buy tell you only what the manufacturer and their boss tells them to say. None of them have a degree in electronics. I have found if you do some simple math the 24 mpx sensor has the same or really close to the same number of pixels per square inch as does the 36 mpx sensor. The manufacturers say a different story but truth be told if pixels in a sensor are related to its length by width number then a larger version of that same sensor may have a larger number of pixels. The new Nikon says it's full frame is 45 mpx which actually makes sense that someone created a larger pixel per square inch sensor finally.

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Mar 10, 2018 13:17:46   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Jim Bob wrote:
I’ve seen a number of shots on this site (some of my own if you will forgive this variance from modesty) that are from 24mp cameras that have as much detail as those of Regis. So don’t give me that bull. As I indicated at the outset, you don’t need 50mp. 24 will do virtually everything.


I to love the photos of Regis but sometimes I think it looks like almost to much detail it almost looks like I don’t know could that be?

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Mar 10, 2018 13:17:50   #
rcdovala
 
It is true that the sensor with the greater pixel count will allow for more aggressive cropping but only up to a point. At some point, you will exceed the resolving power of the lens used to take the image and that will become the limiting factor rather than the pixel count.

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Mar 10, 2018 13:22:54   #
MikeMc
 
Angmo wrote:
Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but relax.


Thanks, beautiful picture! I'm not a professional or anywhere close. I'm re entering amateur photography for a hobby, eventually replacing golf which i'm getting too old to excel at. I live in Northern, California in Carmel by the Sea where we have a rich display of natural beauty just waiting to be photographed, from sunsets to Big Sur to Pebble Beach to the Concurs de Elegance. I'm heavy in technology, light on the artistic side so I know this new hobby will be a challenge! By the way, could you provide the camera/lens, settings info for that picture?

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Mar 10, 2018 13:24:37   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Yes, you need as many FF mp as you can comfortably afford but not for all the obvious reasons that are always cited.
You need the Mp and to shoot RAW not for what we know today but what we don't know about the future. In 10, 15 or 25 years there will be technologies and post processing that we today have not even envisioned. The more you have the better the likelihood of being able of taking advantage of what the future will bring!!!
SS

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20 years from now...really 😏😏🙃

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