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Feb 25, 2018 10:24:14   #
1963mca
 
FYI, consider eye surgery. I had cataracts, as well as focus problems, some astigmatism. Could only use my Leica M with a set of glasses over a quarter inch thick, hated the glasses. Even then tough to focus the Lecia. Finally got the surgery, both eyes, with corrective lens implants after cataract removal. A whole new world has opened up. Everything is brighter (whites are white, not muddy brown) and both eyes are now 20/20! Do need reading glasses for very fine print up to about 12" but beyond a foot, everything is clear. What a pleasure to use the RF Leica without glasses! Total cost was less than a new Leica M body, so I don't have to change the system I love along with all my lenses. May not be for everyone but wish I had done it 8 to 10 years ago when vision started getting real bad.

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Feb 25, 2018 10:54:21   #
Steamboat
 
I use and M240 and love it. I want another system that's Auto focus
Not to negative but ....Sony menus simply stink! ..... too many layers.

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Feb 25, 2018 11:18:26   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
Olympus OM-D M1 ... and adapt those Leica lenses!!

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/


Would he not still have to manually focus those lenses? I own Leica M series cameras and none of the lenses are auto focus that I am aware of.

Dennis

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Feb 25, 2018 11:47:07   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Teddys1 wrote:
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I now am nearsighted with an astigmatism, and also wear polarized, progressive lenses. Focusing is getting harder for me. I love the rendering, size and ease of Leica. I also own 5 lenses. I want to stay within the same weight, footprint as Leica. I am a manual plug and play guy, I don't read manuals or scroll thru 100 options I will never use.
What suggestions do you have for me. BTW I shot with a Nikon D850 , amazing quality, but the weight and size is way too much. Advise please and thanks in advance.
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I... (show quote)

Panasonic G85 or G9

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Feb 25, 2018 11:47:50   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Teddys1 wrote:
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I now am nearsighted with an astigmatism, and also wear polarized, progressive lenses. Focusing is getting harder for me. I love the rendering, size and ease of Leica. I also own 5 lenses. I want to stay within the same weight, footprint as Leica. I am a manual plug and play guy, I don't read manuals or scroll thru 100 options I will never use.
What suggestions do you have for me. BTW I shot with a Nikon D850 , amazing quality, but the weight and size is way too much. Advise please and thanks in advance.
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I... (show quote)

It sounds like you need a camera with a good AF system. I have owned Nikon cameras and currently own both the Fuji X-T2 and the Sony A6500. Both are excellent small systems. The Olympus sells several small cameras that are also excellent. You should visit a camera store and try each of these systems.

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Feb 25, 2018 11:48:45   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
radiojohn wrote:
If you are having a tough time focusing, I'd skip the adapter route others suggest. I'm sure some can do "focus peaking" but that isn't all it is cracked up to be. I'd look for full AF cameras and lenses.


Love my Panasonic focus peaking absolutely amazing

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Feb 25, 2018 12:46:21   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Teddys1 wrote:
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I now am nearsighted with an astigmatism, and also wear polarized, progressive lenses. Focusing is getting harder for me. I love the rendering, size and ease of Leica. I also own 5 lenses. I want to stay within the same weight, footprint as Leica. I am a manual plug and play guy, I don't read manuals or scroll thru 100 options I will never use.
What suggestions do you have for me. BTW I shot with a Nikon D850 , amazing quality, but the weight and size is way too much. Advise please and thanks in advance.
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I... (show quote)


Not sure about what camera you should get, but I would check to see if the one you like has a "favorites" menu setting. There you can put your most often used settings - and avoid the 100 option search. You set it up once and you're done.

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Feb 25, 2018 13:00:18   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Go for the G9.

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Feb 25, 2018 13:02:21   #
Paul Buckhiester Loc: Columbus, GA USA
 
Teddys1 wrote:
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I now am nearsighted with an astigmatism, and also wear polarized, progressive lenses. Focusing is getting harder for me. I love the rendering, size and ease of Leica. I also own 5 lenses. I want to stay within the same weight, footprint as Leica. I am a manual plug and play guy, I don't read manuals or scroll thru 100 options I will never use.
What suggestions do you have for me. BTW I shot with a Nikon D850 , amazing quality, but the weight and size is way too much. Advise please and thanks in advance.
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I... (show quote)


If you are willing to forego interchangeable lenses, consider the Canon G1x Mk. III. It has an APS-C sensor.

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Feb 25, 2018 13:10:29   #
Steamboat
 
Teddys1 wrote:
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I now am nearsighted with an astigmatism, and also wear polarized, progressive lenses. Focusing is getting harder for me. I love the rendering, size and ease of Leica. I also own 5 lenses. I want to stay within the same weight, footprint as Leica. I am a manual plug and play guy, I don't read manuals or scroll thru 100 options I will never use.
What suggestions do you have for me. BTW I shot with a Nikon D850 , amazing quality, but the weight and size is way too much. Advise please and thanks in advance.
I have been using rangefinders (Leica) for ever. I... (show quote)


How about the new Leica CL and an 18 to 56 zoom ?
I haven't seen one, the reviews are great and its a menu and brand that your used to?

I would suspect you don't really need FX sensor?

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Feb 25, 2018 13:51:39   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Steamboat wrote:
How about the new Leica CL and an 18 to 56 zoom ?
I haven't seen one, the reviews are great and its a menu and brand that your used to?

I would suspect you don't really need FX sensor?


The CL looks very Leica-like! LOL
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1376600-REG/leica_19305_cl_mirrorless_digital_camera.html

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Feb 25, 2018 13:55:02   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
burkphoto wrote:
Your lenses can be adapted to Micro 4/3 cameras from Panasonic and Olympus. Both make rangefinder style bodies (Olympus Pen-F and Panasonic GX9).

That said, Panasonic’s best lenses are made of Leica glass. And besides having great autofocus, they come with Dual (body and lens) image stabilization, if you put them on Panasonic bodies.


Yes.... this.

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Feb 25, 2018 15:11:33   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
CO wrote:
The Nikon Df would be another great camera to consider. It's the lightest Nikon full frame FX format camera. You would have a huge selection of lenses to choose from.


The Df is still a tank compared to the Fujis, and since it is a so-called "Full-Frame" the lenses are bigger and heavier than the eguivalent Fuji lenses. Fuji also offers an adaptor for Leica lenses. And, Fuji offers just about any lens 99% of people need, with the exception of ultra long lenses for birds & African safaris. I have kept a few long Nikkors for the very rare situation where I might need one. I have been shooting with Fujis (and MFTs) for 5 + years, and since getting my XT1, the D800 has been gathering dust.

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Feb 25, 2018 17:13:59   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
I used Leica rangefinders beginning in the early 1970s with a single stroke M3, and eventually had an M5 and an M6, in addition to a CL for my wife. All of the Ms could take a screw in lens on the viewfinder window to correct for vision problems - an early version of the diopter adjustment so common on cameras today. I had one to compensate for near sightedness, and it worked well. I have the impression you could get 'em custom made for astigmatism and other corrections besides simple diopter adjustments, although I never explored that in detail.

So if the camera kit you now have is doing what you want in a way you're comfortable with, except for ease-of-focus issues, you might explore a way to just fix the focus problem before trying to find a completely different system that does what you want. NO current camera will give you the what's-outside-the-frame view that an M viewfinder does, for example. And no currently made camera will give you the precision-mechanism feel that you get with Leitz rangefinder bodies and lenses (except current Leitz rangefinders, of course.)

Nor will you get the confidence-with-speed of precise focus you have with a Leitz rangefinder spot (if you can see it clearly) - the closest I ever got with an SLR was using split image focusing screens that you could put in some (but not all) Nikon cameras, but I don't think those are available on current products, and any that do take 'em will be large and heavy bodies. I've got mirrorless digital cameras with "focus peaking" features, and they're nothing like a rangefinder in terms of precision and speed, at least in my experience. That said, I have tens of thousands of properly focused images taken with autofocusing Nikon and other cameras over the past 30+ years, and personally would not go back to manual focus unless forced to. But I DID have to learn how to use each camera's system if I wanted to get the most out of its capabilities.

So I'd suggest looking for a way to fix the focus problem on your current camera body - even if it takes an expensive correction lens it will be cheaper than switching to a new system, and you won't have ANY new procedures to learn and remember.

Edited to add: I was curious enough to do a search, and found this link in about 1 second - http://walterrxeyepiece.com/camera/leica-m6/gallery-leica-m6/ . Not cheap, but if astigmatism correction is all you need (I assume diopter correction can be built into the lens, if appropriate) this looks like a pretty simple way to keep using the camera system you have.

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Feb 25, 2018 17:15:02   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
Steamboat wrote:
I use and M240 and love it. I want another system that's Auto focus
Not to negative but ....Sony menus simply stink! ..... too many layers.


Sony does have an extensive menu system, but once you decide which settings you are likely to adjust while shooting, you just assign them to the customizable buttons or to the quick function menu on the back.

Combined with the existing wheels and buttons for ISO, aperture, and shutter speed, this makes priority and manual shooting fast and simple.

I almost never go into the full menu on my a6000, except for the occasional format or sensor-cleaning functions.

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