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Feb 21, 2018 09:55:05   #
picsman Loc: Scotland
 
I have the tokina 100 and use it for both macro and other outdoor uses and find it a fine prime lens. I think anything shorter than 100 will not be as useful.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:57:50   #
Gampa
 
I’d suggest you stay in the 90 - 105 range ... as you’ll not need to get as close to the object you’re focusing on.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:04:21   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
Steve Perry wrote:
I'd stay away from the 70mm, a little to short IMO. I like a longer working distance (I use a Nikon 200mmm), so off of your list I'd favor the 100mm+ and forget the 70mm. BTW - all of the lenses you listed are fine. Macro lenses tend to all be pretty good, so no worries there.


The beauty of macros though is that they are multipurpose and not just relegated to shooting 1:1 at their minimum focus distance. They are also great primes at their respective focal lengths. I've got a trinity of macro lenses (Nikkor 60mm f/2.8D, 105mm f/2.8D and the 200mm f/4D) and they're used for much more than macro. Based on subject, all bases covered. BTW, thanks for all the great videos.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:46:29   #
Jerry Green Loc: Huntsville, AL
 
I like the Nikon 105mm f/2.8 VR and add the Nikon TC-20E III to it for 210mm when I need even more standoff distance. Mounted on my Nikon D500 it is great handheld when chasing butterflies around. The 105mm is very good for sports and portrait photography. Here is how to mount it on a tripod:

https://gofish.smugmug.com/Other/Other-assorted-photos/i-JpV47pN

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Feb 21, 2018 10:56:10   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I have Tamron (AF), Sigma (AF), Nikon (MF), Vivitar (older MF one made by Kino), Spiratone (MF) & Lester Dine (MF) macro lenses. All will deliver as long as you have good technique. I'm one who basically only uses my macro lenses for macro. I have other lenses for other purposes (got too many as it is). I'd never use a macro lens for head & shoulders portraits of women as they would show every blemish, necessitating a lot of post editing. As for the longer focal lengths yes, they allow for more working distance but the tradeoff is higher cost, more bulk & weight and even less depth of field. 90-105 is the best compromise.

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Feb 21, 2018 11:08:49   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I have a Nikon 60 and 105 and have use for both situation dependent. I have been thinking about something in the 180-200 range as well. All depends upon what and how YOU wish to shoot. Personally, I'd stay away from any lens that no longer could be serviced. Best of luck.

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Feb 21, 2018 11:59:50   #
walkurie Loc: East Stroudsburg, PA
 
I have the Tamron 90mm f/2.8 VC on my D5300 and it is fantastic. Got it at Usedphotopro.

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Feb 21, 2018 13:08:57   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Royce Moss wrote:
Hey Hoggers, looking for a Macro lens for my 7100. I was trying to decide between Tonkia 100mm, Tamron 90mm or Nikon 105. researched all three and have narrowed down to the Tonkia or the Tamrom then I discovered a Sigma 70mm Macro and have read glowing reviews about it. Anyone have experience with the 70? It is more of the focal length I want. Thanks


You'll have a lot better luck if you look for a "Tokina" instead of a "Tonkia"... or a "Tamron" instead of a "Tamrom"

The Sigma 70mm is a long-discontinued model. There are much better.

I normally recommend a 90mm, 100mm or 105mm macro lens, for the working distance it affords you (about 12 inches at closest focus/maximum magnification), without being too difficult to hand hold steady.

The Tokina 100mm is a decent, but simple macro lens. With excellent image quality, it's one of the lowest cost macros available ($350). But in Nikon mount it does not have an in-lens focusing motor. That's fine on your 7000-series camera, which has a focusing drive motor in the body (as well as higher Nikon camera models). But it cannot autofocus on D3000-series or D5000-series Nikon cameras, which lack the in-body focusing motor. That may not matter now, but might if you ever decide to sell the lens, effecting its value to future Nikon users. Also, it's not an "internal focusing" design, which means it grows longer (a LOT longer), when focused close. This reduces working distance between you and the subject. Tokina also uses a rather unusual "focus clutch" method of switching between autofocus and manual focus. The lens' focus ring slides forward or backward slightly to change the setting. This works fine, but means that you either have autofocus or manual focus... you cannot manually tweak or override autofocus without first switching the lens to manual focus mode (all the other lenses mentioned here allow the user to directly override AF at any time).

Tamron actually offers two versions of their 90mm f/2.8 macro lens. Both have similarly excellent image quality. The older version uses a slower micro motor focus drive and, like the Tokina 100, isn't internal focusing. The newest version uses faster USD or "ultrasonic" focus drive, has VC or "vibration control" image stabilization and is internal focusing... but it costs about 50% more than the older version. Both the current Tamron lenses are able to autofocus on any Nikon body.

The Micro-Nikkor 105mm also offers excellent image quality, the AF-S version is able to autofocus fairly quickly on any recent/current Nikon camera body and it has VR "vibration reduction" image stabilization. But it also is the most expensive option, at about $900.

Sigma also offers a 105mm macro lens, very similar to the Micro-Nikkor 105 in all respects... currently selling for about $570. It's internal focusing, uses faster HSM "ultrasonic" focus drive and has OS "optical stabilization".

And, yes, Tamron also offers a "crop only" (DX) 60mm f/2 macro lens. It's quite compact, internal focusing and, thanks to it's unusually large aperture, may better serve dual purpose as a portrait lens than most macro lenses (most are f/2.8 at best). The Tammy 60mm is able to AF on any Nikon, but uses a slower micro motor type of focus drive. That's fine for macro and portraits, but it's by no means an "action/sports" lens. It can't keep up with fast movements.

FYI, Nikon themselves also offer some more compact macro lenses... AF 60mm f/2.8 D ($515, no in-lens focus drive motor), AF-S 60mm f/2.8G ($600), AF-S 40mm f/2.8G "DX" ($275), AF-S 85mm f/3.5G "DX" ($525), AF 200mm f/4D ($1800, no built-in AF motor). Micro-Nikkors are generally capable of very high quality images. But so are many of the third party lenses.

A couple notes:

For macro photography, fast autofocus isn't necessary. In fact, many times it's preferable to use manual focus. And, even with faster types of autofocus drive (such as Nikon's Silent Wave, Sigma HSM or Tamron USD), macro lenses are usually slower focusing than non-macro. This is because most macro lenses use a "long throw" focus design that emphasized precision over speed. Precise focusing is needed because depth of field can be very shallow at higher magnification.

And, for macro photography image stabilization is of rather limited usefulness... It simply doesn't help much at high magnifications. The best systems give about one stop assistance, at most, at full 1:1 magnification (which all the above lenses can do, BTW). Image stabilization, if a lens has it, may be more helpful if using the lens for non-macro purposes.

Have fun shopping!

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Feb 21, 2018 13:24:43   #
Geezer Bill Loc: San Diego County, CA
 
johnpolizzi wrote:
I have the Tamron SP90f2.8 for my crop sensor camera and love it. Weather sealed, sharp, fast auto focus. The longer focal length allows for greater distance from subject, so better for bug shots. Also good portrait focal length.


A little bit off subject, but, the three subject image you included was really great and to my old eyes, very sharp. If I lost my two Nikon micros I would seriously consider the Tamron lens!

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Feb 21, 2018 14:41:37   #
TH Loc: minnesota
 
Hey B&H has the Tokina 100 macro on sale today for $349.95. Go get it.

TH

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Feb 21, 2018 21:00:03   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Reviews on the Tokina 100 macro have been excellent. I would look close at this one too. 70MM is a bit short for my taste, but some even like 60MM, so choices abound.

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Feb 21, 2018 21:09:59   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Royce Moss wrote:
Thanks for the quick answers guys. As for the 70 being kinda shot my plan is to use for stationary objects not really close up. Flowers, portraits, people, objects. Looks like I'll give the 70 or Tonkia 100 a shot. Just can't get over the glowing reviews I have read about the 70.


The 70 sounds great for what YOU want ! .....

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Feb 21, 2018 22:04:22   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
johnpolizzi wrote:
I have the Tamron SP90f2.8 for my crop sensor camera and love it. Weather sealed, sharp, fast auto focus. The longer focal length allows for greater distance from subject, so better for bug shots. Also good portrait focal length.


Although I have several macro lens, 100mm f2.8 and 50mm f2.8, I like to share this one taken using another route. This one was taken with a 500mm reflex mirror lens. I was using a Sony A99 with a Minolta 500mm f8 mirror lens. I seem to recall the butterfly was around 5, maybe 6, feet away and wasn't even aware that it's picture was being taken. No extension rings were used. It focuses this close. And I used auto-focus by the way. And this was hand held.


(Download)

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Feb 21, 2018 23:53:22   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
There have been many good suggestions. I am a Nikon purist. I have the 55mm manual prime with tube, 85mm, 105mm and 200mm (manual) Nikon macro lenses. Funny thing is I took this photo with the Nikon 200-500 telephoto from a distance of about 10 feet. Perhaps its more technique than macro lens. However, you gotta have a hefty arm to hold the camera. This was a handheld shot and I didn't have the lens up the bees ass with a small lens.



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Feb 22, 2018 04:06:50   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Royce Moss wrote:
Hey Hoggers, looking for a Macro lens for my 7100. I was trying to decide between Tonkia 100mm, Tamron 90mm or Nikon 105. researched all three and have narrowed down to the Tonkia or the Tamrom then I discovered a Sigma 70mm Macro and have read glowing reviews about it. Anyone have experience with the 70? It is more of the focal length I want. Thanks


I'd go with the Nikon 105mm Macro. Or if the price of a new one scares you, look for a used vintage Nikkor Macro 105mm AI lens, f/2.8 or f/4. A classic and you probably don't really want AF for macro shooting any way.

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