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I would live to hear from those of you who are experienced in using these editing programs. I am trying decide which one to use.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Both. They complement each other and are both part of the Adobe cloud package.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

They are designed to be used together and are now available only as a rental package for $ 10 per month. Lightroom is a organizing tool with some editing capabilities and Photoshop contains the really good stuff! I do 90% of my work in Lightroom and 10% in Photoshop. Best of luck. Photoshop is also available in a Photoshop Elements version, which you can buy. Best of luck.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

Photoshop is a graphics editor that works hand in hand with Lightroom. Lightroom is seecifically intended to work with photographs. Right now, you can’t get one without the other.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Lightroom is different from Photoshop - though they share the same raw editor.

Lightroom also provides a catalog-based file management system - which I find immensely useful. Photoshop offers a file browser which shares many organizational features with the catalog, but it is not a catalog.

Lightroom's interface was conceived with the professional in mind, so it's organization is fast and easy, and editing for proof goes extremely fast, even faster than using ACR, Bridge and Photoshop.

A raw converter, like Lr or ACR, is great at getting to a very good proof, but it is not a good tool for "finishing" an image. Precision masking, local contrast, noise, saturation, tone and sharpening adjustments are difficult with a simple raw converter. Operations involving layers, blend modes for brushes and layers, layer styles, channel replacement (a process often used in image restoration), advanced sharpening, warping, liquify, adaptive wide angle, blur, content aware fill, scale, spot removal, image repair, etc are just a few of the features in Ps that are missing from Lr.

If I had to just use one software application it would be Photoshop. But given that you can get both, along with the Mobile version, for only $10/mo, it makes total sense to use both - files started in Lr can be easily moved to Ps for final editing. Once saved, the new version is automatically added to the catalog.

So it's not an either one or the other proposition. They do work together very well.

warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA

Lightroom 5 and Photoshop elements 15 works just fine for me.!

hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA

Just Photoshop Elements 15 works fine for me. An Organizer is included.

jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania

Unless you want to pay a monthly fee to use Adobe Photoshop & Lightroom, I would recommend just buying "Affinity Photo", "ON1 Photo RAW 2018", "Photoshop Elements" or "Luminar". Gimp is also available as a free editor.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You say that like it's a negative thing. Paying for the software, whether you pay for it monthly, annually, or initially and then later for upgrades - it's all the same. Photoshop CS Extended used to cost $900 and Lightroom $150, and Ps upgrades were $150 and Lr upgrades were $80. The $10/mo or $120/yr is a total bargain and my software is always up to date. Who wouldn't want to pay the new pricing and get the value compared to the"old" way?

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Both.

But use and learn Lightroom first. It is much easier. Get Scott Kelby’s book.

jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania

For someone that feels they always have to have the absolute newest version and all the updates even if a lot are things you don't and may never use, then it would be a good idea to pay the $10.00 per month. Not everyone is that way. In my case, I used Photoshop 7 until I decided to update to Photoshop CS3 and then for the last time to Photoshop CS6. I used Lightroom 2 until I decided to update to Lightroom 5. In all cases, I find there were improvements but none of them important enough for me to be constantly updating to a new version. I have no need for new camera definitions if I don't have, use or plan to buy any of the new cameras covered by the new version. I am retired and I don't need or want any unnecessary ongoing expenses. I still have my Photoshop CS6 and Lightroom 5.7 that I can use if and when I want and without continuing to pay for it every month. So it isn't a matter of the $10 per month being too much to pay, it is just an unnecessary expense. With good replacements available that we can just buy outright like "Affinity Photo", "Luminar 2018" and "ON1 Photo RAW 2018" we aren't stuck with everlasting payments. For those that think the monthly fee is a good deal and want to use it that's fine, enjoy. Rather than paying a fee to use Photoshop I would rather just buy Photoshop Elements which I have done before.

HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas

ME, I don't want to rent that crap, I use On1 and it belongs to me.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

Hi. Both applications are wonderful and there are some similarities that they share. Since you can only purchase them these days through the Adobe payment program, Creative Cloud, you will get both applications. Lightroom allows you to manage your images, it is a digital asset management application, where with Photoshop you would need to use another application, often one called Bridge, to get the same thing. In both Lightroom and Photoshop you can process images in various ways and send images to your printer. Each of these programs have pros and cons for users.

I have used Lightroom going on 8 years (I also teach it) and I use Photoshop as well as other applications, like Affinity, Luminar 2018, ON1, Nik, Topaz, and others. I recommend Lightroom because it is more multifaceted with initial processing than Photoshop and easier to use once you READ the MANUAL on the LIBRARY MODULE. You must read the manual on the module or you will become very confused, very quickly: there are also good books on the application, I prefer the one from Martin Evening. I do about 90% of my image processing in LR and then use other programs, including Photoshop, to further work on the image to create my vision. There are so many variable in this discuss that it would take a book, literally, to answer you. Try the application for free with the 30-day trial and try some other applications as well. Luminar 2018 is a little easier in some ways for beginners, my opinion, and Affinity is a good program but is actually a replacement for Photoshop. There are a lot of choices. I love Lightroom and really enjoy how easy it is for me to use and what it allows me to do, process, search for photos in multiple ways either with keywords or metadata, print very easily, do slideshows and create books. Hope this helps you.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

It does now, but all Software companies are going to subscription model, because there is minimal profit in selling stand alone applications. Eventually you will get totally invested in On1 and they will have a killer update that will only be available in subscription. Just like:

Microsoft
Intuit
Quicken
Adobe

Only a matter of time.

HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas

Let it be there will be something else by then. If I use On1 for three years I have saved over $200.00 over Junkroom CC