FOOD PHOTOGRAPHY: cropped vs. FF?
Feb 17, 2018 01:12:23 #
SharpShooter wrote:
JWC, welcome to the Hog! br First, I don’t see how... (show quote)
The statement that the FF camera outperforms a crop sensor camera in all situations is just BS. Sports and Wildlife are better with a crop sensor camera. The Nikon D500 has great low light capability. That said, subject, lighting and a photographer's eye are more important to a good photo than what camera is used. In photography as in life, it is the poor carpenter that blames his tools.
Feb 17, 2018 13:31:22 #
JWCoop wrote:
Okay. Thanks. Just learning how the system works.
Original files attached now.
Original files attached now.
Perhaps a better Italian Beef...taken with Fuji X100F (APS-C) using the camera’s Pro Neg Standard film simulation (patterned after Fuji’s NPS 160 print film) which produces minimal contrast and soft, muted colors, along with gently enhanced skin tones. Back in the day, NPS 160 was popular with many portrait and wedding photographers.
The image was recorded as a JPEG file. Aperture Priority Mode. Settings: 1/42 sec, f/4, ISO 1600.
Exposure Compensation: None. Processed in Lightroom v5.7 on MacBook Pro laptop and Nik mobile for iPad
Feb 17, 2018 14:21:01 #
The point of my post (well kinda) was that too many folks get too hung up on technicalities and sometimes pay no attention to creativity, resourcefulness, improvisation, and artfulness in their photography.
In commercial food photography the main idea is to make folks hungry with appetizing images, get their old salivary glands going and get them to buy lots of good food! YUMMY! If you are not a commercial photographer, it can be good fun and challenging work!
In a commercial studio environment, all that crazy high-rex stuff lie full frame cameras, 100 megapixel digital systems, digitized view cameras and insanely expensive prime lenses are a reality not BS! Even in my shop, not every job is gonna be a billboard so we RENTED a Digital Hasselblad system, on 2 occasions for a couple of weeks and charged the fees to the client. Most of the time my Canon DSLR ad a couple of lenses do the trick.My biggest problem, last month, is that we went through 10 packs of hamburger buns before we found a photogenic one! The chef couldn't get the nice grill marks that he wanted so we pot them in with a wire grid and a blowtorch! Then we ate it- it was very good
Food work is like anythg else in terms of style. Some jobs require selective focus and shallow depth of field and some need maximum depth of field. In my work, I have had art directors asking for soft focus and romantic wine and candlelight kinda moods and others want to be able to count the crumbs on the table and edge to edge sharpness!
I love food work for a number of reasons. I like to cook and eat! I like to prepare food (at home) for my family - grandkids etc! It's one of the aspects of commercial work that is not oversaturated with amateur or pro shooters- it's painstaking and sometimes difficult and not many casual shooters and part-time guys and gals wanna get into it professionally. There is allot of problem solving- commercial photographer os 50% problem solving!
My basic tip for food shooting: Start off with the same point of view that folks get when they are eating, serving themselves at a buffet, etc. about 45 degrees. Unless you are a bug or a cat you don't usually view your food from the table level or look up at it- unless it is till hanging in a tree. Even when you are cookin, you are not directly over the hot steaming pots and pans. You can try otere angles but start off with the more logical one. Food is seldom served on a cyclorama, white, gray or black environment. Suggesting a serving environment appropriate to the style of cuisine masked for a more appetizing shot. Last time I shot sushi, I made sure to get the right kinda Japaneses plates and serving trays and used some bamboo placemats to suggest a background.
Unless y'all want to nurture a nervous breakdown or cause one in others, y'all gotta take things easy. I mean some folks just wanna make an nice shot of grandma's apple pie or wienerschnitzel and are deluged with a flood of pixel counting, higher mathematics, arguments over camera types and brands...etc. Taks the fun outta things.
In my house, cell phones, except for picture-taking, are strictly prohibited at eh dinner table, however, gluttonous eating and burping are encouraged- OK not in public at restaurants...!
In commercial food photography the main idea is to make folks hungry with appetizing images, get their old salivary glands going and get them to buy lots of good food! YUMMY! If you are not a commercial photographer, it can be good fun and challenging work!
In a commercial studio environment, all that crazy high-rex stuff lie full frame cameras, 100 megapixel digital systems, digitized view cameras and insanely expensive prime lenses are a reality not BS! Even in my shop, not every job is gonna be a billboard so we RENTED a Digital Hasselblad system, on 2 occasions for a couple of weeks and charged the fees to the client. Most of the time my Canon DSLR ad a couple of lenses do the trick.My biggest problem, last month, is that we went through 10 packs of hamburger buns before we found a photogenic one! The chef couldn't get the nice grill marks that he wanted so we pot them in with a wire grid and a blowtorch! Then we ate it- it was very good
Food work is like anythg else in terms of style. Some jobs require selective focus and shallow depth of field and some need maximum depth of field. In my work, I have had art directors asking for soft focus and romantic wine and candlelight kinda moods and others want to be able to count the crumbs on the table and edge to edge sharpness!
I love food work for a number of reasons. I like to cook and eat! I like to prepare food (at home) for my family - grandkids etc! It's one of the aspects of commercial work that is not oversaturated with amateur or pro shooters- it's painstaking and sometimes difficult and not many casual shooters and part-time guys and gals wanna get into it professionally. There is allot of problem solving- commercial photographer os 50% problem solving!
My basic tip for food shooting: Start off with the same point of view that folks get when they are eating, serving themselves at a buffet, etc. about 45 degrees. Unless you are a bug or a cat you don't usually view your food from the table level or look up at it- unless it is till hanging in a tree. Even when you are cookin, you are not directly over the hot steaming pots and pans. You can try otere angles but start off with the more logical one. Food is seldom served on a cyclorama, white, gray or black environment. Suggesting a serving environment appropriate to the style of cuisine masked for a more appetizing shot. Last time I shot sushi, I made sure to get the right kinda Japaneses plates and serving trays and used some bamboo placemats to suggest a background.
Unless y'all want to nurture a nervous breakdown or cause one in others, y'all gotta take things easy. I mean some folks just wanna make an nice shot of grandma's apple pie or wienerschnitzel and are deluged with a flood of pixel counting, higher mathematics, arguments over camera types and brands...etc. Taks the fun outta things.
In my house, cell phones, except for picture-taking, are strictly prohibited at eh dinner table, however, gluttonous eating and burping are encouraged- OK not in public at restaurants...!
Feb 17, 2018 15:19:57 #
Sometimes it is advisable to shoot certain plates and food items with some space or atmosphere around them- NOT too close in macro mode. That can look like an abstraction and not be immediately identifiable or not look particularly appetizing. If you get in too close to a bowl of pasta, you'll need to almost arrange each noodle, with meat or stew- some fastidious styling is in order- get out the tweezers! With bowls of sauces, make sure the are filled nicely and tidy up the edges for smudges, spills or stains.
The shots posted below are mostly done with my smartphone camera, around the house in our own kitchen and dining room or at a friend's home. When we are making up a pot full of pasta sauce, I spread all the ingredients out om the counter and knock off ashot. I like to experiment with our soda maker (carbonator) and my lovely wife's healthy weekend brunch spreads for the kids. Try it, it's fun and good practice for serious setups.
Please see the next reply box for the images- I gotta load them off of my PHONE!
The shots posted below are mostly done with my smartphone camera, around the house in our own kitchen and dining room or at a friend's home. When we are making up a pot full of pasta sauce, I spread all the ingredients out om the counter and knock off ashot. I like to experiment with our soda maker (carbonator) and my lovely wife's healthy weekend brunch spreads for the kids. Try it, it's fun and good practice for serious setups.
Please see the next reply box for the images- I gotta load them off of my PHONE!
Feb 17, 2018 15:26:27 #
Feb 17, 2018 17:22:56 #
jdubu
Loc: San Jose, CA
JWCoop wrote:
Yes, let me clarify. What was 300dpi was the fi... (show quote)
Besides the technical issues of backgrounds and accessories being kinda cluttery, you NEVER cross your chopsticks when plating or laying them down. (Asian superstition)
I find the lighting of your food shots are rather dull and flat. This is sometimes a matter of taste, but when I shoot food, I want some highlights and shadow for depth and putting the product in front of the viewer.
Feb 17, 2018 19:14:53 #
[quote=rjaywallace]Perhaps a better Italian Beef...taken with Fuji X100F (APS-C) using the camera’s Pro Neg Standard film simulation (patterned after Fuji’s NPS 160 print film) which produces minimal contrast and soft, muted colors, along with gently enhanced skin tones. Back in the day, NPS 160 was popular with many portrait and wedding photographers.
The image was recorded as a JPEG file. Aperture Priority Mode. Settings: 1/42 sec, f/4, ISO 1600.
Exposure Compensation: None. Processed in Lightroom v5.7 on MacBook Pro laptop and Nik mobile for iPad[/quote
White balance is way off.
The image was recorded as a JPEG file. Aperture Priority Mode. Settings: 1/42 sec, f/4, ISO 1600.
Exposure Compensation: None. Processed in Lightroom v5.7 on MacBook Pro laptop and Nik mobile for iPad[/quote
White balance is way off.
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