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Feb 6, 2018 10:12:45   #
Doowopa Loc: Connecticut
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
While I'm at it... where did Camera Raw or PS hide the de-haze slider? I've seen it recently but don't remember where.


Camera Raw FX tab

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Feb 6, 2018 11:59:33   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
Ugh... long day for one finished pic... Training to do interior photos for RE Brokers... This is my galley kitchen/dining room.

For some reason everything seems to have a haze over it... could be my burned-out eye-balls...

Canon 5D mIV, f19, 400 ISO. 16-35 2.8 Canon lens. Hdr with curtains brought in from a separate window exposure frame.

What do you think? options? Skip the wide angle and just go for the galley area?

Thanks.


I took it into PSE 14 and used the haze removable in the Enhancement filter. Here is yours before and after the haze removed. Very quick and easy....Rich

Before haze removed
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After haze removed
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Feb 6, 2018 12:24:49   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Rich, I really don't see much of a difference. The backrest of the chair and the edge of the table are still pretty hazy.
--Bob
bigwolf40 wrote:
I took it into PSE 14 and used the haze removable in the Enhancement filter. Here is yours before and after the haze removed. Very quick and easy....Rich

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Feb 6, 2018 13:43:12   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
Ugh... long day for one finished pic... Training to do interior photos for RE Brokers... This is my galley kitchen/dining room.

For some reason everything seems to have a haze over it... could be my burned-out eye-balls...

Canon 5D mIV, f19, 400 ISO. 16-35 2.8 Canon lens. Hdr with curtains brought in from a separate window exposure frame.

What do you think? options? Skip the wide angle and just go for the galley area?

Thanks.


You have way to much in this image, and mixed color lighting, and insufficient lighting. And, probably optical diffraction from f19 - why f19 ?? Granted, the view calls for great DOF - because you are including TOO much. You are not showing anything to advantage.

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Feb 6, 2018 13:58:49   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 
rmalarz wrote:
Rich, I really don't see much of a difference. The backrest of the chair and the edge of the table are still pretty hazy.
--Bob
Bob I did it again but I think if you look at the back room right behind that part of the chair you will see that the top of the white curtain is the same color as on the top of the chair so I think what you have here is a reflection. There is a lot of reflection in this photo. The table with the glass top acts like a mirror. The ceiling, the entrance way, the cabinet, even the floor under the chair. I think this is what you are seeing and you are getting the feeling it's haze but I don't think it is. Everything in the photo seems to be nice an sharp and if it were haze it wouldn't be this sharp. I might be wrong but I don't think so. I worked on it a little more and it looks good to me....Rich

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Feb 6, 2018 14:12:21   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Several things I'd suggest. Close the kitchen drawers tight. No bag sticking out of the drawers. No dishes in the sink. Lights on. All the lights in the house on. Wide as your lens can go. You're at 18mm and you could go to 16mm. You can always crop if you get more than you want. Get down lower. Use speedlites to brighten things up. Get just the kitchen. Then just the dining room. Try pictures with and without that living room door opened. Take a picture of the dining room from the kitchen. Bracket your shots.

PhotoKurtz wrote:
Ugh... long day for one finished pic... Training to do interior photos for RE Brokers... This is my galley kitchen/dining room.

For some reason everything seems to have a haze over it... could be my burned-out eye-balls...

Canon 5D mIV, f19, 400 ISO. 16-35 2.8 Canon lens. Hdr with curtains brought in from a separate window exposure frame.

What do you think? options? Skip the wide angle and just go for the galley area?

Thanks.

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Feb 6, 2018 14:12:45   #
Lemon Drop Kid Loc: Greeley, CO
 
Replies to your post and another recent post stressed using wide angle lenses to make rooms seem larger. I once worked for a realtor who urged caution in doing that. His point was that it is not good to make every room in every house look like the interior of a cathedral. "People," he told me, "use photos to give them a feeling of what a house is like. If they then take the time to inspect a given house, and find it smaller than the pictures indicated, they don't like that." So, I never used any lens wider than 24mm in taking house pictures for him, and tried to stick to 35mm.

Also, I liked what you said in your reply. As you pointed out, what may be good ambient lighting at one house could be terrible at another, and there is no time to wait for the sun to change positions. And, some rooms ARE an odd shape. Good luck!

quote=PhotoKurtz]Both good suggestions. That room IS long and narrow... no hiding that. Yes... This is definitely a test. It's my own house. Lots of time to work on this til I figure it out. No shade on that window, but maybe I can snap something at 7 AM before direct sunlight. That doesn't become an option when on a normal shoot... gotta work with what's there. and no shade is on that window. maybe move to the right to loose it. Will keep you posted.[/quot

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Feb 6, 2018 15:04:20   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
......For some reason everything seems to have a haze over it....


If it's the overall softness that's worrying you, one of the consequences of HDR is a loss of contrast. The dehaze tool would probably fix that, but it might leave your darks a bit too dark. You could counter that by lifting the Blacks. If the dehaze tool is messing with things too much, try finding a mix of Contrast, Clarity and lifting the Blacks that gives the desired effect.

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Feb 6, 2018 19:52:13   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Here was my attempt from last night. Yes, the HDR attempt does create some issues, but I did nothing more than I do with any photographs I take when I process them.
--Bob
bigwolf40 wrote:
Bob I did it again but I think if you look at the back room right behind that part of the chair you will see that the top of the white curtain is the same color as on the top of the chair so I think what you have here is a reflection. There is a lot of reflection in this photo. The table with the glass top acts like a mirror. The ceiling, the entrance way, the cabinet, even the floor under the chair. I think this is what you are seeing and you are getting the feeling it's haze but I don't think it is. Everything in the photo seems to be nice an sharp and if it were haze it wouldn't be this sharp. I might be wrong but I don't think so. I worked on it a little more and it looks good to me....Rich
Bob I did it again but I think if you look at the ... (show quote)


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Feb 6, 2018 20:47:12   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
While I'm at it... where did Camera Raw or PS hide the de-haze slider? I've seen it recently but don't remember where.


In the Develop Module hidden in the Effects panel

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Feb 8, 2018 16:45:11   #
PhotoKurtz Loc: Carterville, IL
 
Thanks for all the great suggestions! I was out for a day or so and just got back to this today. Will have a set of pics posted shortly.

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Feb 8, 2018 17:04:18   #
PhotoKurtz Loc: Carterville, IL
 
Doowopa wrote:
Camera Raw FX tab

Thanks... I needed that!

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Feb 8, 2018 17:38:11   #
PhotoKurtz Loc: Carterville, IL
 
OK. Did most of the house. Master Bedroom maid didn't show up today. Office is out of control. This seems to be improving. Thanks for all the responses.

Some are HDR. Lots of layering for corrections.

Shot from the other end of the galley.
Shot from the other end of the galley....
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Practiced correcting blown out window exposure
Practiced correcting blown out window exposure...
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OK, so the floor covering didn't arrive yet.
OK, so the floor covering didn't arrive yet....
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Talk about divergent light sources...
Talk about divergent light sources......
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Feb 8, 2018 17:41:03   #
PhotoKurtz Loc: Carterville, IL
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Several things I'd suggest. Close the kitchen drawers tight. No bag sticking out of the drawers. No dishes in the sink. Lights on. All the lights in the house on. Wide as your lens can go. You're at 18mm and you could go to 16mm. You can always crop if you get more than you want. Get down lower. Use speedlites to brighten things up. Get just the kitchen. Then just the dining room. Try pictures with and without that living room door opened. Take a picture of the dining room from the kitchen. Bracket your shots.
Several things I'd suggest. Close the kitchen dra... (show quote)


Closing drawers was not in Scope of Work. Every light fixture has different K temps... tried to leave that out of the equation... otherwise maybe I should carry a dozen 5100K bulbs to standardize.

Yes. Went back and did each room separately... that helped. (no door on the living room..)

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Feb 8, 2018 17:41:35   #
PhotoKurtz Loc: Carterville, IL
 
Cloned in blinds where needed.

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