whitehall Loc: Canada

I use Lightroom Classic, plus Photoshop as part of my subscription.
I am finding that if I open an image from my HD it opens in Camera Raw before I open the image in Photoshop. This allows me to do some initial editing, eg spot removal, which I find more user friendly than in Lightroom. Of course when I save the image then it goes back to the HD and then I have to import into LR. Too laborous.

In LR when I open photoshop from edit it opens directly in Photoshop proper. Is there a way to open Camera Raw directly from LR?

As usually your wisdom is appreciated



IGW

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

No. The RAW functionality is embedded with LR.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Having used Camera Raw, Lightroom and Canon DPP, I suggest you revisit LR's approach to editing as I find it much more efficient than Camera RAW. Maybe it's an issue of familiarity or training?

markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ

No, one cannot. However, LR does everything with RAW that Camera RAW does. So why would you want to do that? Just curious.
Mark

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

No. LR uses a database to manage the images and their previews. You cannot right click on an image and open it with LR. You must first add the image to the catalog.

The editor in Lr is the same as Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop. Only it is organized onto one screen for speed of access and execution, as opposed to being arranged on several tabbed pages - the tools are the same and they all work the same.

My workflow is:

1) open Lr, navigate to Library module, press Import bottom left corner
2) insert card in a reader connected to the computer with LR on it. Select Copy in the top center to copy files from card
3) click on upper left corner, select "other destination" for new files; create a new folder for the import; select it as a target destination
4) press import in the bottom right corner.
5) cull and edit my files.

You can also copy the files using Windows Explorer or Finder (Mac) and use ADD as the option to put the files into the catalog. This will leave the images in place and not create any duplicates.

And there are other scenarios that can be used to get files into the computer.

Once I have the images in the computer, I process files to the best extent possible. I prefer to do the bulk of the local edits, including removing spots and dust, in Photoshop, which has far better tools for that, and layers, masking, blend modes for brushes and layers, layer styles, and a whole bunch of useful tools for image finishing. Lr is not an image finishing program.

whitehall Loc: Canada

Thanks. I particularly liked the spot removal and cloning function in CR. I recognize that Lightroom has these but I find it a challenge to use, and I freely admit that Photoshop is becoming so very sophisticated that I will have to go back and do some serious studying. But thanks for the. advice

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Like you, I find ACR quite the way to start editing. As such, I've somewhat left LR in the dust and do 99.9% of my work using a combination of ACR and PS. I also like the fact that editing done in ACR is saved as a sidecar file and the original RAW file is left untouched. LR, essentially, offers nothing that would inspire me to use it.
--Bob

Doowopa Loc: Connecticut

Cr is included in the Photoshop filters

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Can you make virtual copies of exposure enhancements in Camera Raw? There are lots of features in LR that are not in Camera Raw that can be applied directly to raw files.

http://phoenixlightroomenterprise.com/lr-vs-acr03.html

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I'm not sure I completely understand your question. I can make adjustments to one photograph and then save those adjustments and apply them to others. I do this with each camera/lens combination I use, along with the metering modes and methods. These are saved and applied to photographs in my initial ACR adjustments.

Additionally, I can open several photos at one time, make adjustments to one and, then, apply them to the others. Although I don't use the method illustrated in your link, it can be done with ACR. I hope this answers your question.
--Bob

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

It's only a filter that gives you a similar look to ACR when you are working on bit mapped files (psd, jpeg, tiff, png, etc). It is NOT the same as ACR, which can work with raw files. When you work on bitmapped files it is exactly like working on the CR filter in Photoshop, however.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Yes, you can. They are called snapshots in Adobe Camera Raw - I just made three of a single image - a high key one, normal, and black and white. They are stored as metadata in the xmp file. But they are not as slick and easy to use as a virtual copy.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You can write metadata changes to xmp in LR. Also the original raw file is NEVER changed in LR, just like ACR. The main advantage of LR is a less clunky, faster interface. When moving from Develop to Library it feels less like two different programs like it does with PS and Bridge. The downside of LR's Library is that it only recognizes a few image formats, while Bridge can read every file format generated by every Adobe application, so it still has it's place in the grand scheme of things.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

The spot removal and cloning is far more precise in Photoshop. In CR and LR, it is weak at best.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Thanks, Gene. I appreciate the time you took to write this response. To this date, I've only dabbled with LR since I've been using PS for years longer than LR has been around.
--Bob