Voter ID Laws: There are 18 states plus Washington DC that have NO voter identification laws when people go to vote in those states (and DC). People who say there is no voter fraud...

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There are 18 states plus Washington DC that have NO voter identification laws when people go to vote in those states (and DC). People who say there is no voter fraud need to explain to me how that can be, if identification is not required to vote?

These are the states that have No ID laws required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.

It goes up from there from "not so strict" to "sort of strict" to "low strict" to nothing, as noted above.

If liberals want the popular vote to count, they might want to think about these statistics before they spout the Hillary won the popular vote rhetoric.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a problem.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Kmgw9v wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a problem.

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a goal.

Yours is accurate but I think mine paints the picture better.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

thom w wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a goal.

Yours is accurate but I think mine paints the picture better.

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

Kmgw9v wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a problem.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

Kmgw9v wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a problem.

How is being able to identify yourself in this day and age 'suppression'? Can you explain that in any conceivable manner that makes one iota of sense?

Could YOU function in your current life without any form of identification?

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

skylane5sp wrote:

How is being able to identify yourself in this day and age 'suppression'? Can you explain that in any conceivable manner that makes one iota of sense?

Could YOU function in your current life without any form of identification?

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Kmgw9v wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a problem.

Yes, it is a shame our laws prohibit noncitizens from voting, even if they are democrats.

Sjfh

thom w wrote:

Voter fraud is not a problem; voter suppression is a goal.

Yours is accurate but I think mine paints the picture better.

And how do you two know this?

Sjfh

phcaan wrote:

Yes, it is a shame our laws prohibit noncitizens from voting, even if they are democrats.

They’re oppressed in their homeland and then suppressed here. Quite pressing and inhumane, don’t you think? The least we could do is let them vote.....but we first need to bus them to strategic districts because The Electoral College.

jcboy3

skylane5sp wrote:

How is being able to identify yourself in this day and age 'suppression'? Can you explain that in any conceivable manner that makes one iota of sense?

Could YOU function in your current life without any form of identification?

I am not everyone. If the government wants to give out IDs, that's fine with me. But many of the states do not make it easy for poor people to get IDs. They have to travel some distance, have sufficient ID (and not everyone does, especially some elderly that don't have and can't get birth certificates), and take time off from work.

Just as with voting. Voting on a single day, and a Tuesday (work day), makes it difficult for working people to vote. Restricting the number and hours of polling places also suppresses the vote.

The government should encourage voting; should have voting on multiple days, including weekends. Provide IDs at polling places. Allow more flexibility in the IDs that can be used to obtain a voter ID.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

jcboy3 wrote:

I am not everyone. If the government wants to giv... (show quote)

Please explain clearly how your 'poor people' can function without ID? Can they get any benefits without ID? Can they open an account at any bank without ID? Can they buy alcohol or tobacco without ID? Medicaid? Social Security? EBT cards?

Sjfh

jcboy3 wrote:

I am not everyone. If the government wants to giv... (show quote)

How do you get work without an ID? I had to provide several forms to prove I was eligible to work in the USA.

In Virginia, although we do need to show ID to vote (also to buy cough medicine, so I do hope those old folks don’t get sick)... everyone can vote weeks before the election I even voted by mail for several years (a nice loophole where you can avoid showing your ID) and didn’t even need to leave my barc-o-lounger.

I do agree that it certainly is a pain having to show those new-fangled birth-thingies to get an ID. They even want proof of where you live. I had to save the dang electric bill to prove that.

I just hope none of those poor people want to get a library card. Makes getting a drivers license seem easy on comparison. We’re done for if they start requiring library cards as A voter ID. Done for, for sure.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Sjfh wrote:

And how do you two know this?

You couldn't move an election enough from persons voting at the polls to sway an election. There probably is fraud from time to time but it's boxes of ballots. Republicans like to talk about the dead voting in Illinois but they aren't talking about fraud at the poles. Hundreds (or more) of fraudulent votes can't be done at the polling place. (if you believe I'm wrong, explain to me how it could be done). It has to be done somewhere else where voter ID wouldn't help. States have closed polling places in likely Democratic districts, simultaneously with ID laws. In some states IDs that one might expect a Republican to carry are accepted but student IDs and out of state IDs are not accepted. Hunting license yes, Student ID no.

Sjfh

thom w wrote:

You couldn't move an election enough from persons ... (show quote)

Can you tell me how an out-of-state ID would help you to vote in another state then we are that idea comes from? Isn’t the whole idea that you have to vote where you live… Where are you are allowed to register?