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Jan 9, 2018 14:53:29   #
cdavis7820 Loc: Akron Ohio
 
Can a really bad quality picture also be looked as art? I proposed this question in "Birds in Flight" and the answer is overwhelmingly No for the pictures I used.

Now I'm trying to see if the perceptive is different based on group.

Is beauty really in the eye of the beholder or is bad just bad?

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Jan 9, 2018 14:59:32   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
"Really bad" and "what is art?" will never have a consensus among groups as varied as this UHH membership. But yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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Jan 9, 2018 15:03:18   #
Fred Harwood Loc: Sheffield, Mass.
 
Good luck!

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Jan 9, 2018 15:09:10   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but these are just bad.

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Jan 9, 2018 15:15:47   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My approach is integrity. Was that your intent? If so, it's successful and art. If it's a blown attempt with some fidgeting of some plug-in sliders in an attempt to make something of nothing, it's crap.
--Bob
cdavis7820 wrote:
Can a really bad quality picture also be looked as art? I proposed this question in "Birds in Flight" and the answer is overwhelmingly No for the pictures I used.

Now I'm trying to see if the perceptive is different based on group.

Is beauty really in the eye of the beholder or is bad just bad?

Thank You

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Jan 9, 2018 15:20:11   #
juanbalv Loc: Los Angeles / Hawthorne
 
Beauty is, indeed, in the eye of the beholder. It always depends on what you are trying to achieve. No one can say with any degree of certainty, what the artist intended on any given work. Personally I like the effect of your photographs. They have an ethereal feeling about them. I like that for what they evoke in me.

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Jan 9, 2018 15:21:30   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
When something is done deliberately to create a desired effect we refer to it as art and judge it on how effective or appropriate we consider the effect to be. On the other hand, trying to pass off a mistake as art is another matter. Some art came about because of a lucky accident, but beyond that, not all accidents are lucky in the sense of producing something that has intrinsic artistic worth. Altering reality usually has to be done in a considered and intentional way in order to produce something of artistic value.

In the case of your posted images, extreme softness IMO isn't effective or appropriate for seagulls. It doesn't bring out the essence of winged flight or highlight anything about the seagull's nature. If it did it would have some artistic merit.

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Jan 9, 2018 15:22:30   #
juanbalv Loc: Los Angeles / Hawthorne
 
People pay good money for presets, and filters to be able to achieve those effects in their various photography software programs.

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Jan 9, 2018 15:53:13   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cdavis7820 wrote:
Can a really bad quality picture also be looked as art? I proposed this question in "Birds in Flight" and the answer is overwhelmingly No for the pictures I used.

Now I'm trying to see if the perceptive is different based on group.

Is beauty really in the eye of the beholder or is bad just bad?

Thank You

Art can be either good or bad. It is still art.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty is not what makes art.

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Jan 9, 2018 15:58:25   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
A good topic for "For your consideration section" not for photo analysis, sorry.

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Jan 9, 2018 22:09:19   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So is crap. Because someone calls something art does not make it art. Like anything else, a line must be drawn. I realise that line is somewhat arbitrary.

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Jan 9, 2018 22:31:28   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
kpmac wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So is crap. Because someone calls something art does not make it art. Like anything else, a line must be drawn. I realise that line is somewhat arbitrary.

You might like this post then...

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Jan 9, 2018 22:32:39   #
Designdweeb Loc: Metro NYC & East Stroudsburg, PA
 
Art’s a language with vocabulary, grammar, and content, history, and often with context, sometimes a body of related work. You can break the rules, to make a point, but make a point. Beautiful is a whole ‘nother topic. And there’s even more to it than that, but I’m no genius.

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Jan 9, 2018 22:41:39   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Designdweeb wrote:
Art’s a language with vocabulary, grammar, and content, history, and often with context, sometimes a body of related work. You can break the rules, to make a point, but make a point. Beautiful is a whole ‘nother topic. And there’s even more to it than that, but I’m no genius.

That is so true!

Everyone has different likes and dislikes, and beauty to one person is crappy to another.

Art is still art even if you or I do not like it at all! What we do or don't like or see as beautiful does not determine what is art!

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Jan 10, 2018 07:33:48   #
Jerry G Loc: Waterford, Michigan and Florida
 
There is good and there is bad, there is also good art and there is bad art, so it could be art, just bad art.

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