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Jan 6, 2018 12:24:18   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
The two bases you have chosen are inexpensive, the red one looks complicated, the other one looks flimsy. You need to be sure that whatever you buy will hold up to the weight of your gear, and at the same time be easy to adjust with the gear attached. Take a look at reallyrightstuff.com/tripods/leveling-bases for top quality. Then compare with other choices on bhphotovideo.com under leveling bases. If you do not want to spend the money, you can also go with a very inexpensive and workable solution. See photo below - $16.00. The problem with leveling the tripod is you have to adjust the legs individually rather than just the base, but the level is easy to see, and it responds accurately to adjustments. Then all you have to do is level your camera [simple if it has a built-in function for which you can assign a button]. It seems to me that your biggest problem will be setting all camera/lens combinations to the same height.

Not sure why you are worried about being to adjust things in a hurry! The process you described sounds like one you can NOT set up in a hurry...

Hope this helps.
The two bases you have chosen are inexpensive, the... (show quote)


Thank you Susan. The two bases I showed are of the type - not the brand I would buy. I have actually decided on type A but Manfrotto, not whatever brand my picture shows. The leveling plate you show, I already own but don't use. The hassle of changing the tripod legs on each of 4 tripods is monumental. I believe the bases allow 10 degrees of shift which I should be able to cope with.

Adjusting the height of all 4 tripods to match will be accomplished with the use of a laser level attached directly to the "master tripod" and moved around the circle. I probably won't bother using ball heads at all, just screw the cameras directly to the leveling bases.

What I probably should have mentioned earlier is that the cameras will be some 40 feet apart.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:26:29   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I have the 'B' type and find it quick and very easy to use. The lever on the right side in the picture locks and unlocks the unit. For my use it fills the need quite well but for what you described I think the more "fiddly" one would be better. At the least, more precise.
An aside; For what you are working with, don't trust the included bubbles, they will vary to some degree from one to another.


Thanks for the tip about the bubbles, I have three of the multilevel cubes and they all show slightly different variations.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:29:27   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
rmalarz wrote:
If I were making the choice, it would be A. Most civil surveying equipment uses this type of mount and it is the easiest to adjust. That being said, I've no experience with the Neewer equipment.
--Bob


I have now chosen type A - Manfroto version. If I was going to buy type B, it would not be a Neewer brand. I have not been impressed with my previous Neewer purchases.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:48:59   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
SalvageDiver wrote:
Am I missing something here? Why not just use a bubble leveler cube that goes into the hotshoe?


The cubes I find perfectly adequate for most things, setting up a single camera on a ball head, but no help at all when trying to align multi-cameras.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:51:12   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
I started thinking about this project months ago but could not make it work. I visited a studio which specializes in colored 3D printing and gained an insight on creating the final image, converting to 3D data and final plastic output.

Most of the equipment I have bought from Ebay but even so has cost more than I wanted to pay. At the end of the day I will have 4 D70's, 4 small ball heads, 4 Tamron 28-80mm lenses, 4 tripods etc. to put back onto Ebay and recover some of the costs.

Thanks to everyone who responded. I posted in this section because the kit I was after falls under Panoramic Tools, but it the thread disappears or is moved, that is fine by me.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:59:16   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Linary wrote:
I started thinking about this project months ago but could not make it work. I visited a studio which specializes in colored 3D printing and gained an insight on creating the final image, converting to 3D data and final plastic output.

Most of the equipment I have bought from Ebay but even so has cost more than I wanted to pay. At the end of the day I will have 4 D70's, 4 small ball heads, 4 Tamron 28-80mm lenses, 4 tripods etc. to put back onto Ebay and recover some of the costs.

Thanks to everyone who responded. I posted in this section because the kit I was after falls under Panoramic Tools, but it the thread disappears or is moved, that is fine by me.
I started thinking about this project months ago ... (show quote)

There is no reason to move it. Now, if you want it moved to get more exposure we can do that.

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Jan 6, 2018 13:09:25   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
Rongnongno wrote:
There is no reason to move it. Now, if you want it moved to get more exposure we can do that.


No, I just though it might not be appropriate for the section. The answers received have steered me (in a good way) to going the next step of what promises to be either a great flop or some sort of success.

Who knows, I may even shoot a few panos and post here.

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Jan 6, 2018 13:20:36   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Linary wrote:
No, I just though it might not be appropriate for the section. The answers received have steered me (in a good way) to going the next step of what promises to be either a great flop or some sort of success.

Who knows, I may even shoot a few panos and post here.

Great.

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Jan 6, 2018 17:56:27   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Linary wrote:
I started thinking about this project months ago but could not make it work. I visited a studio which specializes in colored 3D printing and gained an insight on creating the final image, converting to 3D data and final plastic output.

Most of the equipment I have bought from Ebay but even so has cost more than I wanted to pay. At the end of the day I will have 4 D70's, 4 small ball heads, 4 Tamron 28-80mm lenses, 4 tripods etc. to put back onto Ebay and recover some of the costs.

Thanks to everyone who responded. I posted in this section because the kit I was after falls under Panoramic Tools, but it the thread disappears or is moved, that is fine by me.
I started thinking about this project months ago ... (show quote)

Your project sounds very interesting. Hope you can make it work. It sounds like the need for precision is a major priority! Takes a lot of patience. Even though you are not specifically doing a panorama, some of the problems you are facing are fairly relevant. I hope you will come back and post a photo of the finished 3-D project!
Susan

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Jan 9, 2018 22:49:06   #
jcboy3
 
Linary wrote:
For a project I am running soon, I need to purchase a Tripod Leveling Base. I have narrowed my choice down to two types - A and B on the illustration below.

Type A looks as though it might be fiddly to set, and type B, though it looks simpler, may well have some drawbacks.

Both types are available from well known manufacturers and suppliers, but the purpose of this thread is to get some help in choosing a type rather than a brand. I am looking for something that can be set up quickly and easily, without too much fuss and will hold its position without creeping. The maximum it will have to carry is a ballhead + DSLR + 300mm lens.

I have very sturdy tripods but they are difficult to set level on uneven ground, especially when in a hurry.

Any opinions would be welcome. thank you.
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I have both types. Type A setup is the same as if you were leveling with the tripod legs, so if you have difficulty leveling with tripod legs I would not recommend that style. Type B is essentially a low profile ball head; leveling is the same process. Difficult with large cameras and lenses.

I don't know what 300mm lens you are using; hopefully it has a tripod collar for a balanced mount. If not, use a nodal rail slide and Arca clamp (if your ball head isn't Arca).

The best type for leveling is a video tripod with leveling bowl. The adjustment is controlled by a column that extends below the tripod base; it is by far the easiest and fastest way to level.

What I don't understand is what you are doing with a ball head, as that just adds another variable in the leveling. Might as well just use the ball head unless you are rotating the head, and then I would use a panoramic head or pan-tilt head instead of a ball head.

If it was me, I would level the tripods, raise the columns to match height, and mount the cameras on pano rotators using nodal rail slides to balance if needed. I would use a large bubble level rather than the little levels in the tripod.

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Jan 16, 2018 23:55:15   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Still a single camera solution....

Trace a circular line on the ground around the monument. Mark every place you want to take a capture. Use a tripod, vertical column on the each mark, in turn.

You have two issues:
- Tripod level (as horizontal)
- Tripod elevation.

The tripod elevation can be easily solved using a laser lever fixed on a second tripod, the laser being reoriented (rotated) toward the next point of view using the first tripod elevation as a reference. Both tripods need to be level of course.


For the tripods height and centerline of the lens, RGG suggests a laser level. I have a very inexpensive alternative. Water always finds its own level in a tube. Many years working on construction projects and my Pop’s experience as a boatwright taught me that if you take some 3/8 inch clear tubing of any length and fill it with water, each end when raised will be perfectly level to the other. Once it settles of course.

As to focusing error. It was fixed and while the DoF was enough, the wings are sometime out of focus, among other things.

Lighting is not a problem per say. Focusing is.
If you want consistant lighting wait for an overcast day.
Still a single camera solution.... br br Trace a ... (show quote)

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Jan 16, 2018 23:56:20   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
Things just disappear when you post sometimes?

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Jan 17, 2018 00:02:18   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
For the centerline of the lens and tripod head height, use a 3/8 inch clear tube of any length filled with water, the presence of small bubbles should not matter. Water will find its own level and this will give the precise measurements you need without very much expense.

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