Solid Stae Drive Advisability
Dec 27, 2017 20:25:46 #
I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, mainly for data. This would be mainly photos (but some other files also). Reason to do this is to speed up my photo processing. I use Corel PaintShop Pro and On1. Amateur only. 170 GB of photos so far
I don't have time to deal with all the intricacies/heartache/gotchas of trying to get Windows 10 on an SSD.
1) Is a SSD for data likely to be a problem/mistake as apparently these drives have limited write cycles?
2) Is this likely to improve performance substantially?
3) What else should I consider, ask, be aware of?
Thanks
Happy New Year.
I don't have time to deal with all the intricacies/heartache/gotchas of trying to get Windows 10 on an SSD.
1) Is a SSD for data likely to be a problem/mistake as apparently these drives have limited write cycles?
2) Is this likely to improve performance substantially?
3) What else should I consider, ask, be aware of?
Thanks
Happy New Year.
Dec 27, 2017 20:37:50 #
I have Windows 10 Pro running on an SSD. No problems whatsoever.
When I am working on CAD on photo processing, I copy the files to the SSD beforehand.
I installed the CAD & Photo software on the SSD drive. All other applications are installed on a regular hard drive.
SSDs do have limited read/write cycles, but I don't many of us could actually run one to death
Happy New Year,
Giles
When I am working on CAD on photo processing, I copy the files to the SSD beforehand.
I installed the CAD & Photo software on the SSD drive. All other applications are installed on a regular hard drive.
SSDs do have limited read/write cycles, but I don't many of us could actually run one to death
Happy New Year,
Giles
Dec 27, 2017 20:51:54 #
quote=iamimdoc]I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, mainly for data. This would be mainly photos (but some other files also). Reason to do this is to speed up my photo processing. I use Corel PaintShop Pro and On1. Amateur only. 170 GB of photos so far
I don't have time to deal with all the intricacies/heartache/gotchas of trying to get Windows 10 on an SSD.
I had no problem what so ever, cloaned the C drive to the SSD which I then renamed "C" and the old C became "D" and the site for all data except photos and videos, while I put in a second HDD (named "P") for photos and video. I then followed microsoft's instructions for moving files to get the images on the "P" drive and other date on the "D" drive while the OS and apps stayed on the SSD "C".
1) Is a SSD for data likely to be a problem/mistake as apparently these drives have limited write cycles?
I have been using the same one for 3 years, that "limited" write cycles is measured in 100s or even low 1000s depending on the brand and grade of the drive. Also most people made the SSD the OS and App drive, not the data drive since the most time is in processing the images, not reading and writing the data.
2) Is this likely to improve performance substantially?
YES
3) What else should I consider, ask, be aware of?
Look up the current stats on SSD Brand, Model reliability etc and buy the best you can afford. Get it bigger than you think you will need. I am using a 240 GB SSD for OS and Apps only. The three HDDs are each 7200rpm and 2-4 TB each (third HDD is an external for my Acronis backups only, I keep one week's worth plus the current (1 full + 6 incremental then start over, I delete the backups older than 2 weeks)
Thanks
Happy New Year.[/quote
[b]Happy New Year to you and your's also.[/b]
I don't have time to deal with all the intricacies/heartache/gotchas of trying to get Windows 10 on an SSD.
I had no problem what so ever, cloaned the C drive to the SSD which I then renamed "C" and the old C became "D" and the site for all data except photos and videos, while I put in a second HDD (named "P") for photos and video. I then followed microsoft's instructions for moving files to get the images on the "P" drive and other date on the "D" drive while the OS and apps stayed on the SSD "C".
1) Is a SSD for data likely to be a problem/mistake as apparently these drives have limited write cycles?
I have been using the same one for 3 years, that "limited" write cycles is measured in 100s or even low 1000s depending on the brand and grade of the drive. Also most people made the SSD the OS and App drive, not the data drive since the most time is in processing the images, not reading and writing the data.
2) Is this likely to improve performance substantially?
YES
3) What else should I consider, ask, be aware of?
Look up the current stats on SSD Brand, Model reliability etc and buy the best you can afford. Get it bigger than you think you will need. I am using a 240 GB SSD for OS and Apps only. The three HDDs are each 7200rpm and 2-4 TB each (third HDD is an external for my Acronis backups only, I keep one week's worth plus the current (1 full + 6 incremental then start over, I delete the backups older than 2 weeks)
Thanks
Happy New Year.[/quote
[b]Happy New Year to you and your's also.[/b]
Dec 27, 2017 21:31:18 #
robertjerl wrote:
quote=iamimdoc I am thinking about getting a solid... (show quote)
Using an SSD as your main drive is a good idea and will speed up performance. They're pretty reliable these days, a Samsung 512GB drive would be worth considering. Clone your existing drive, and use the existing one as a second drive or external drive by getting an inexpensive USB 3 enclosure.
Dec 27, 2017 22:03:55 #
iamimdoc wrote:
I don't have time to deal with all the intricacies/heartache/gotchas of trying to get Windows 10 on an SSD.
There aren't any. An SSD acts just like any other system drive.
Dec 28, 2017 01:34:20 #
iamimdoc wrote:
I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, m... (show quote)
Win 10 on an SSD is no harder to set up than on an HDD. I do it all the time. The install is quite a bit faster on an SSD, though.
I don't use PSP and I am not familiar with how it uses machine resources. Lightroom would not be speed up, and Photoshop only slightly so on certain operations. You could always set up an SSD to cache an HDD to see if there is an improvement. Such an arrangement will provide 80-90% of the performance of a SSD-only setup.
I would not advise using an SSD for data and an HDD for booting an software.
Dec 28, 2017 05:27:44 #
Run a google on SSD price 2018. Price expected to drop a lot in 2018.
If you have a desk top computer, then add a hot swap door for easy back up. They cost about $20 and make back up simple. A 250 Gig ssd will hold you for quite a while. Backing up your system on a SSD will not be a problem; many programs for free do the trick. Once backed up on SSD then simply change the drive in your computer... next time it wakes up it will not realize the change except to boot faster.
Gene51 suggested a cash/swap drive to speed up graphics. USB drives can also be used for your swap drive... tho for about 150$ you can get a video card with lots of gigs of memory built in that will do the swap/cash well. [Hope I am not talking beyond my knowledge... early in AM... need more coffee]
If you have a desk top computer, then add a hot swap door for easy back up. They cost about $20 and make back up simple. A 250 Gig ssd will hold you for quite a while. Backing up your system on a SSD will not be a problem; many programs for free do the trick. Once backed up on SSD then simply change the drive in your computer... next time it wakes up it will not realize the change except to boot faster.
Gene51 suggested a cash/swap drive to speed up graphics. USB drives can also be used for your swap drive... tho for about 150$ you can get a video card with lots of gigs of memory built in that will do the swap/cash well. [Hope I am not talking beyond my knowledge... early in AM... need more coffee]
Dec 28, 2017 05:55:41 #
Resqu2
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Gene51 wrote:
Win 10 on an SSD is no harder to set up than on an... (show quote)
What’s your experience transferring software that has license numbers like MS Office from a hhd to a ssd? Work ok?
Dec 28, 2017 06:14:28 #
1) Does cloning deal with all the licensing and install issues: ie just clone to new drive, relabel drives, etc? Windows/ Dell (the PC manufacturer) software don't complain, cause issues? I dont want to get into reinstalling everything
2) Must a cloned drive be as large as the initial C drive (1 TB) - C drive only half full currently?
3)If all above non issues, please suggest reliable Cloning sodftware, ideally free
Thanks
2) Must a cloned drive be as large as the initial C drive (1 TB) - C drive only half full currently?
3)If all above non issues, please suggest reliable Cloning sodftware, ideally free
Thanks
Dec 28, 2017 06:20:13 #
Resqu2 wrote:
What’s your experience transferring software that has license numbers like MS Office from a hhd to a ssd? Work ok?
No issues. I just do a clean install and re-authorize it. If there are any macros, scripts or custom settings I just move them over.
Dec 28, 2017 06:37:56 #
iamimdoc wrote:
I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, m... (show quote)
SSDs have proven to be reliable and durable. Their main advantage is very fast read/write times. How that would benefit photo processing is questionable.
I put Samsung SSDs into several computers. They came with software and a cable to duplicate the C drive onto the SSD. Of course, if you have a 2TB C drive loaded with programs and data, it will not fit onto a 500GB SSD. You could copy all the data from C onto another HDD and then delete it from C.
Dec 28, 2017 08:07:27 #
Cloning is easy and Windows and other software will be just fine. I have a 5 year old computer that I swapped out a Samsung SSD and used the clone software and the new drive booted just fine and all software ran perfectly, but MUCH faster. You really should make the SSD your boot drive since the programs will benefit from the speed.
As Jerry mentions, the processing time for photos probably won't change because that is based on your processing speed, but reading and writing the image data will be much faster, as well as your software loading plugins, filters, etc. so your perceived performance when editing images overall will be so much better. Once you have experienced an SSD there is no going back!
As Jerry mentions, the processing time for photos probably won't change because that is based on your processing speed, but reading and writing the image data will be much faster, as well as your software loading plugins, filters, etc. so your perceived performance when editing images overall will be so much better. Once you have experienced an SSD there is no going back!
Dec 28, 2017 08:23:24 #
iamimdoc wrote:
I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, m... (show quote)
Have Win 10 and SSD and flawless. Sure it will improve performance but amount of RAM and processor speed are all in play with the drive.
Your only problem and you may want to think about before. How long before you fill it up and of course, back it up to What?
With raw and even just jpg files growing in leaps and bounds you might also want to think about much larger external drive for you photos. You can always opt for much larger SSD or multiple SSDs but then it starts to get pricey vs and external.
Dec 28, 2017 08:51:44 #
pithydoug wrote:
Have Win 10 and SSD and flawless. Sure it will im... (show quote)
What I have been doing on my upgrades is when I install the SSD, I clone my old hard drive to the SSD and then make the old drive a secondary drive for storage. External drives also work but are slower than an internal drive connected with a SATA interface direct to the motherboard.
Dec 28, 2017 09:21:04 #
I have had an SSD for my operating system drive since 2012. Originally I had a 240 GB Intel SSD and upgraded to a 1 TB Samsung EVO 850 SSD. My images are stored on a 4 TB internal drive and backed up to 4 external drives. SSD's really make the system fly. Of course a fast processor and sufficient RAM are also essential.
Mark
Mark
iamimdoc wrote:
I am thinking about getting a solid state drive, m... (show quote)
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