Real photographers
Dec 24, 2017 09:49:04 #
rmalarz wrote:
I find it personally amazing the number of people who express disdain for darkroom work and still consider themselves photographers. I personally love the dark. I love the smell of the chemistry and the magic that it works. I love seeing an image appear, as if by magic, where there was none before. That excitement has never, and will never diminish. If it should, I'll be finished photographing.
--Bob
--Bob
Nothing wrong with that. In woodworking, we call your type Neanderthals. Roy Underhill is an avid Neanderthal, uses only hand tools, and the older, the better. Others, like my self, enjoy using power tools, the more work done by Mr. Kilowatt the better. After years and years, I figured out my love affair with wood work is mostly about tool power.
Interestingly, the Neanderthals appear to look at Mr. Kilowatt with a jaundiced eye, while the electric guys respect the neanderthals, despite not being attracted to hard, slow hand work. I think in photography, most people here remember the pitfalls of film and are so glad digital came about they can't help shouting it from the roof tops.
In photography, I like everything about digital. Fast, cheap, powerful and fast editing, simple, permanent organization and storage etc.
Dec 24, 2017 10:34:20 #
Apaflo wrote:
That is an extremely ignorant and misguided statem... (show quote)
The wrong tool for the job would be a film camera to take digital photo's and vice versa. Nobody does that.
In photography, film is not wrong tool, it is just doing the same thing the hard way. Some like doing things the hard way, Roy Underhill for example, others like doing it the easy way, me for example. I suspect a large part of doing it the hard way is the process. They like the process as much as the final product. I like post processing more than actually taking the pictures. That doesn't make me right and film guys wrong, just that we enjoy different processes.
Dec 24, 2017 10:55:09 #
Apaflo wrote:
I apologize for posting a reply that was too complex. My reply was directed to the comment that a hammer is just a tool, which misses the point that hammers are very specialized tools. Just like cameras. Not just any camera, nor just any hammer, is the right tool for a given job.
Please avoid personal insults and gratuitous off topic obfuscation.
Please avoid personal insults and gratuitous off topic obfuscation.
I know you don't need support, but there is something about trashing ones photo's just for the sake of argument that irks me.
I feel confident that if Ansel Adams was not known, and I posted one of his most famous pictures here as mine, and an example of great photography, it would be trashed by all the great UHH photographers.
Your photo's look fine to me, at least you occasionally post a pic, while many never posted even one. BTW, Ansel's photo's interest me not, but your comments, when not too complex, are always interesting and thought provoking.
Dec 24, 2017 12:30:59 #
BigDaddy wrote:
Nothing wrong with that. In woodworking, we call ... (show quote)
Neanderthals would probably address “Mr. Kilowatt” as “Reddy Kilowatt”. Just sayin.
Dec 24, 2017 13:28:08 #
Dec 24, 2017 13:45:35 #
Agree but I'd add the importance of subject. Put another way, the four other parameters you mention gain their value only when applied to a subject, preferably an interesting one.
Elmo wrote:
I’d just note that there are really FOUR basic parameters in any photography. Focus, aperature, shutter speed, AND ISO. The latter is, of course, equivalent to one’s choice of film in the old days.
Dec 24, 2017 23:01:42 #
I still have my FTN and all the lenses, including the telephoto zoom that I purchased for my photo safari to Kenya and Tanzania in 1972. Then I went to the D200 about 15 years ago. Recently I upgraded to the D7200 and spent the month of September in France partly reliving my Army days (1961-63). In January I will be taking a 14 hour course on Lightroom. This 81 year old has a lot of catching up to do!
Dec 24, 2017 23:13:36 #
I just picked up a NIB Nikon battery grip for my N90s. Merry Christmas to me!!! :)
Merry Christmas to all here on UHH too!!!
Merry Christmas to all here on UHH too!!!
Dec 25, 2017 00:07:48 #
To "Dredoms)... I'm ten years behind you at 71. Your someone I would enjoy talking to. Your lucky you where in France, I was in Vietnam (used to be a French Colony). But I was born in France as war baby. Life is inretesting. Hope you saw southern France. I got a lot of pictures. 
Dec 25, 2017 00:31:27 #
To Geodowns. I was stationed in SW France at a small Post, Fontenet, about 200+ miles SW of Paris and about 80 miles north of Bordeaux. HQ for 83rd Engr Battalion. I was Post Dental Surgeon. On our recent trip we did spend about a week in the Luberon region of Provence just north of Marseille. I also have quite a few pictures. We should compare someday. I am in Northville so not that far from you. Ed.
Dec 25, 2017 00:40:23 #
Ok will have to do that, for now its late and Santa coming so I better go to bed. I wish you a Merry Christmas and I'll get in touch with you again Tuesday. 
Dec 25, 2017 08:19:36 #
therwol wrote:
After we knock out their defenses and escort them with more modern planes that can respond to threats. They would be sitting ducks otherwise. The North Vietnamese didn't seem to have any trouble shooting down some of them.
I laugh when the Russians keep buzzing the UK and the US with their Bear bombers. By themselves, they wouldn't last 10 seconds in our airspace.
I laugh when the Russians keep buzzing the UK and the US with their Bear bombers. By themselves, they wouldn't last 10 seconds in our airspace.
Yeah, these guys kinda lumber through the air...
Dec 25, 2017 08:41:33 #
Shutterbug57 wrote:
Neanderthals would probably address âMr. Kilowattâ as âReddy Kilowattâ. Just sayin.
No, no. Here he was Willy Wirehand.
I wonder if the cave men who stained rocks with berry juice, made fun of film camera guys. After all, we saw some of their paintings that have lasted over 4000 years in Africa.
Dec 25, 2017 21:20:21 #
therwol
Loc: USA
fuminous wrote:
Yeah, these guys kinda lumber through the air...
Actually, this plane holds the world's record for the fastest propeller plane every made, capable of 575mph. It is also said to be extremely noisy, easily heard by our planes that go up to intercept it when they get close. But the B52 of the same era beats it in every regard (speed, altitude, payload and range). Both "kinda lumber through the air" relative to more modern planes. The Russians just play games with us when they send these planes close to our borders.
Dec 26, 2017 09:32:05 #
olddutch
Loc: Beloit, Wisconsin
when I get on a Airliner I look forward and ask where the "needle ball and airspeed is" the comment is it is here someplace.. technology, isn't it great... especially spell check????
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