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Dec 14, 2017 17:28:31   #
DMGill Loc: Colorado
 
I was photographing a wedding and suddenly had an obstruction on my 17-35mm f/2.8 lens. When I looked to see what it the problem was a found a glob of food was stuck on the UV filter. I would have been less than pleased had that been on the front element of the lens. Another time, I had a camera slide next to the rear hatch while driving. When the hatch opened the camera fell out and landed on the the front edge of the B+W filter. The filter shattered and was a little challenging to remove, but the camera and lens were undamaged. The filter took the shock and the brass filter rim protected the threads on the lens. I can't count the number of times I've been photographing outdoor events when it was raining and the UV filter protected the front element of the lens from getting wet. To each there own, but I generally leave the UV filter in place as well as almost always using the lens hood and using the lens cap when ever appropriate.

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Dec 14, 2017 17:39:47   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
DMGill wrote:
To each there own, but I generally leave the UV filter in place as well as almost always using the lens hood and using the lens cap when ever appropriate.

DMGill,
I agree. And your overall point is generally mine also. No UV filter on a kit lens is one thing, on a $2,000 piece of gear is entirely another matter. I reckon I feel strongly both ways.
Thanks for the advice.

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Dec 14, 2017 17:41:51   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
I use clear filters on my lenses. I don't expect them to protect the lens in the event of a fall or being hit by something. I'm only looking for them to protect the lens from when I fumble with those pinch lens caps and from dust, spray, sand, fingerprints etc. The less I have to clean the lens itself the better.
I take them off if its a really special or difficult shot.

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Dec 14, 2017 17:46:56   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
rwww80a wrote:
"Protecting the glass" Use a lens hood!
Varying exposure to "create a photograph" try them all. Most of the websites show before and after filter photos.
Buy at your local store, try for the effect, return for a refund those that you don't like.


You sure are making a lot of assumptions. BTW, welcome to UHH.

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Dec 14, 2017 18:00:28   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
Robeng wrote:
Not exactly sure but I think you meant the Nikon 70mm-200mm f/2.8 G lens which is Nikon's earlier version. Not the latest "E" version. Just get a good B&W UV filter and you will be fine.

Don't over think it.


I don't think I over thought it - I never said anything about the "latest E version" however I did screw up the numerical designation 70-200 by inserting a "72".
If you had read the post previous to your reply you would have noticed that I had already copped to a poorly written post. By the way this is the lens I was referring to:



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Dec 14, 2017 18:01:00   #
BigGWells Loc: Olympia, WA
 
The best UV filter, is no UV filter. I never use a filter, unless its a CP, or ND. For me it is just another piece of glass you have to shoot through. I always shoot with a lens hood on, unless I have the CP on.

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Dec 14, 2017 18:05:26   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
BigGWells wrote:
The best UV filter, is no UV filter. I never use a filter, unless its a CP, or ND. For me it is just another piece of glass you have to shoot through. I always shoot with a lens hood on, unless I have the CP on.


BigGWells,
You have a good point unless one is an uncoordinated, accident-prone, on-his-way-to-the-next-calamity klutz like me.
Thanks,

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Dec 14, 2017 19:35:35   #
Robeng Loc: California
 
Raz Theo wrote:
I don't think I over thought it - I never said anything about the "latest E version" however I did screw up the numerical designation 70-200 by inserting a "72".
If you had read the post previous to your reply you would have noticed that I had already copped to a poorly written post. By the way this is the lens I was referring to:


Hi Raz,

I had that lens for years and loved it. One of my go to lens for photographing models (Feel free to check out my website, password is Girls). Only issue I had with that lens was a little focus breathing. Other than that great lens.

I had a B&W UV filter on it and it was fine.

Rob
Nikon Professional Service Photographer

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Dec 14, 2017 19:56:27   #
Jim Bob
 
Falcon wrote:
Jim Bob, I placed an order with Breakthrough Photography (BP) right after thanksgiving knowing that three items (X100 holder, X4 CPL, and a 52mm Brass Adapter ring) were on backorder. After a week with no order status from BP other than an acknowledgment of my order, I emailed Graham to ask if their process was to hold my entire order until the backordered items were available or if they usually ship as items were available in stock. In a reply email Graham said that the X100 holder was 6-8 weeks out but the CPL ships immediately. Within 2 days I received the CPL and 2 other filters with no indication regarding the rest of my in-stock order items. After another 10 days I asked again for a status of my order and received a shipping notice for the remainder of the in-stock items. That shipment should arrive tomorrow. The X100 Holder and 52mm Brass adapter ring are expected to ship (I am told) in "late December or early January". As I mentioned in my original post, the items I have received seem to be very well made and very nicely packaged. The confusion in delivering my order and in communicating with me are likely due to the Holiday season and Graham's move from San Francisco to Denver. I also mentioned that BP was just out (maybe not very far out) of the startup phase after their Kickstarter campaign. I had thought that they might still be trying to get completely organized. They appear to be successful with their products judging from the pleased comments I have seen from members of several other Photography forums. The most hazardous time for any new company is when they are poised on the brink of success and have to grow to meet demand for their product. Being a great photographer, a great designer, a great engineer, and having a great idea doesn't necessarily translate into being a great manager of a company. Running a business isn't always as much fun as taking photos. I sincerely hope Graham can make the change since I think he has a product with great potential.
I will note that once they realized they hadn't shipped my order it showed up quickly--at least part of it did.
Jim Bob, I placed an order with Breakthrough Photo... (show quote)

I appreciate the courtesy of your kind response.

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Dec 14, 2017 20:02:13   #
Jim Bob
 
Raz Theo wrote:
BigGWells,
You have a good point unless one is an uncoordinated, accident-prone, on-his-way-to-the-next-calamity klutz like me.
Thanks,


In other words, if one is simply human. You will not notice image degradation from a quality filter. I started a thread sometime ago with images, some with a UV and some without one. Some guessed right but just as many guessed wrong.

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Dec 14, 2017 21:14:18   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
[quote=Robeng)
I had that lens for years and loved it. One of my go to lens for photographing models (Feel free to check out my website, password is Girls). Only issue I had with that lens was a little focus breathing. Other than that great lens.

Rob, thanks for the comment and thanks for pointing me to your website. Impressive. I'm gonna check it out more fully later. Maybe you can help me estimate the age of this particular lens. I was told this "like brand new" lens had been mounted on a camera for the "duration of only 300 clicks" (I wanted the lens so decided that wasn't a really weird way to estimate). The serial # is 20231554 which as best as I can tell from a few fuzzy sources dates it around 2011 - 13.
Do you have any knowledge about this? And you're right, I've already learned the focus breathing is a fact but for me, at this point, I think it will be insignificant.

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Dec 14, 2017 21:17:00   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
Jim Bob wrote:
In other words, if one is simply human. You will not notice image degradation from a quality filter. I started a thread sometime ago with images, some with a UV and some without one. Some guessed right but just as many guessed wrong.


Jim Bob,
I don't doubt you're right which is why I stay confused.
Thanks

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Dec 14, 2017 22:07:09   #
Robeng Loc: California
 
[quote=Raz Theo][quote=Robeng)
I had that lens for years and loved it. One of my go to lens for photographing models (Feel free to check out my website, password is Girls). Only issue I had with that lens was a little focus breathing. Other than that great lens.

Rob, thanks for the comment and thanks for pointing me to your website. Impressive. I'm gonna check it out more fully later. Maybe you can help me estimate the age of this particular lens. I was told this "like brand new" lens had been mounted on a camera for the "duration of only 300 clicks" (I wanted the lens so decided that wasn't a really weird way to estimate). The serial # is 20231554 which as best as I can tell from a few fuzzy sources dates it around 2011 - 13.
Do you have any knowledge about this? And you're right, I've already learned the focus breathing is a fact but for me, at this point, I think it will be insignificant.[/quote]

Raz,

There is really no way to find the actual date of manufacture of your lens. The best you can do is get an approximate date. Check out Roland Vink's Nikon site, he had some good info on Nikon lenses. As far as 300 clicks, there's no way of telling how many clicks are on your lens that's more for shutter count. More importantly, make sure your lens is a U.S. version or you will have an issue with repairs. Nikon doesn't like to repair gray market lenses unless you're with NPS. I also recommend registering your lens with Nikon.

I really like the "G" lens and used it as one of my go to lenses until I switched to the "E" version which Nikon for some stupid reason changed the focus ring which drives me crazy. It's a great lens enjoy it. Me personally I would put a good UV filter on it in case of water spray and whatever else that can land on it. I rather wipe that crap off my filter than off my lens.

Rob

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Dec 14, 2017 22:27:09   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Raz Theo wrote:
To: amfoto1 and jeep_daddy,
Thanks to you both for taking time to respond to my post in such rich detail, succinc as well as an updatetly and crystal clear. You both think along the same lines. My post was poorly written because, believe it or not, I do know the difference between the filters and what they're used for. My goal was primarily to find UV "protection" for the 70-200 and was looking for advice on the "best" one, as well as updates on the latest NDs. But you each make the point of why muck up a perfectly good lens with another layer of interference? Now that you put it that way, I agree. I also appreciate the reminders and info about the Polarizers and ND filters and will put them to good use.
Thanks
To: amfoto1 and jeep_daddy, br Thanks to you both ... (show quote)



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Dec 15, 2017 00:10:44   #
BIGRO Loc: NYC
 
Digital camera sensors are not affected by uv rays and most lens are already coated, so it's piece of mind and protection, you can dehaze post process. I have a B+W circular polarizer, makes sky deeper blue and brings out foilage but must be used properly, just bought a breakthrough x4 nd filter for my 24-70 2.8. Used to smooth out water and make waterfalls silky and stretches clouds, mainly long exposure shots. Follow the old adage, you get what you pay for.

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