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Dec 12, 2017 15:03:37   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
A few weeks ago, I posted some images of Tibetan pilgrims in Lhasa, Tibet. I have made my second and third passes thru my 4500 images and found a few more of people walking the Barkhor around the Johkang Temple. I particularly like the contrasts of the first with the modern sophisticated Han (I believe) woman with a cell phone with the traditional dresses around her.

The second shot is a woman who was in my first set, but she had taken her jacket off and rearranged her head scarf. I did not realize it was the same woman until I studied her shoes.

The third shot leads me to suspect that Tibetans are descended from the same ancestors of some Native Americans.

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Dec 12, 2017 15:27:53   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
I like having your shots reflect the modern young people contrasting with the older traditionally dressed people. Great shots. I agree that the man in the last photo looks very Navajo...interesting.

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Dec 12, 2017 16:31:53   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
davefales wrote:
A few weeks ago, I posted some images of Tibetan pilgrims in Lhasa, Tibet. I have made my second and third passes thru my 4500 images and found a few more of people walking the Barkhor around the Johkang Temple. I particularly like the contrasts of the first with the modern sophisticated Han (I believe) woman with a cell phone with the traditional dresses around her.

The second shot is a woman who was in my first set, but she had taken her jacket off and rearranged her head scarf. I did not realize it was the same woman until I studied her shoes.

The third shot leads me to suspect that Tibetans are descended from the same ancestors of some Native Americans.
A few weeks ago, I posted some images of Tibetan p... (show quote)


Interesting idea. Doing a quick bit of checking I found that genetic studies point to people from the Altai Mountains region of Siberia. But I might think that people crossed from Asia to North America more than once and why not people from more than one specific location. Navajo, Aztec, Mayan, Apache, etc. people all look different. It is also likely animals migrated several times between Asia and North America, and in both directions. For example the Horse evolved in North America, migrated to Asia and then ended up in Europe and North Africa as well. Yet long ago the Horse became extinct in North America but was reintroduced in modern form (breeds) by the Spanish and other settlers. Some of these Horse populations were soon taken up by Native American people as well.

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Dec 12, 2017 16:36:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
davefales wrote:
A few weeks ago, I posted some images of Tibetan pilgrims in Lhasa, Tibet. I have made my second and third passes thru my 4500 images and found a few more of people walking the Barkhor around the Johkang Temple. I particularly like the contrasts of the first with the modern sophisticated Han (I believe) woman with a cell phone with the traditional dresses around her.

The second shot is a woman who was in my first set, but she had taken her jacket off and rearranged her head scarf. I did not realize it was the same woman until I studied her shoes.

The third shot leads me to suspect that Tibetans are descended from the same ancestors of some Native Americans.
A few weeks ago, I posted some images of Tibetan p... (show quote)


Yes, likely Han. Most Chinese, i.e., Cantonese, Mandarin speaking are Han. But there are many "minority" groups in China as well.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:05:50   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Sirius_one wrote:
I like having your shots reflect the modern young people contrasting with the older traditionally dressed people. Great shots. I agree that the man in the last photo looks very Navajo...interesting.


Many thanks, Sirius. I found some online discussion about recent findings that Native Americans have been linked to western Asia. Seems reasonable that the Tibetans could have derived from the same peoples.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:07:16   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Interesting idea. Doing a quick bit of checking I found that genetic studies point to people from the Altai Mountains region of Siberia. But I might think that people crossed from Asia to North America more than once and why not people from more than one specific location. Navajo, Aztec, Mayan, Apache, etc. people all look different. It is also likely animals migrated several times between Asia and North America, and in both directions. For example the Horse evolved in North America, migrated to Asia and then ended up in Europe and North Africa as well. Yet long ago the Horse became extinct in North America but was reintroduced in modern form (breeds) by the Spanish and other settlers. Some of these Horse populations were soon taken up by Native American people as well.
Interesting idea. Doing a quick bit of checking I... (show quote)


I suspect DNA testing is going to reveal a lot more soon. Thanks for looking and commenting.

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Dec 12, 2017 21:22:43   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
davefales wrote:
Many thanks, Sirius. I found some online discussion about recent findings that Native Americans have been linked to western Asia. Seems reasonable that the Tibetans could have derived from the same peoples.


It is a really provocative idea.

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Dec 13, 2017 15:31:28   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
Keep them coming Dave, it is an enjoyable trip with the added bonus of not costing me/us a cent.

My kind of vacation. 😏

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Dec 14, 2017 10:47:33   #
shangyrhee Loc: Nashville TN to Sacramento CA
 
Great series !!! I visited Tibet 20 years ago. What changes have taken ! There was no cell phone and hardly any western influence. I think in addition to genetic factors environmental i,e altitude & harsh weathers may have played role. Looking forward to see more from you. Thank you. Shang

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