Looking for a camera - here are the specifications -- help? (Page 2): Since weight is your number one concern, how much are you willing to carry. The FZ1000 weighs 1.83 lbs with...

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

LParis wrote:

i would like a point and shoot type camera (my bri... (show quote)

Since weight is your number one concern, how much are you willing to carry. The FZ1000 weighs 1.83 lbs with battery installed. Second, how small a sensor are you willing to go to - understanding that the smaller the sensor, the greater the noise will be at high ISO and in low light situations. Lastly, how much zoom do you want?

LParis Loc: Victoria, BC Canada

Gene51 wrote:

Since weight is your number one concern, how much are you willing to carry. The FZ1000 weighs 1.83 lbs with battery installed. Second, how small a sensor are you willing to go to - understanding that the smaller the sensor, the greater the noise will be at high ISO and in low light situations. Lastly, how much zoom do you want?

Hi, having owned the FZ1000, I know that is much too heavy. I also own a Nikon bridge camera with a long zoom - the weight on that is okay but the Nikon does not shoot in RAW. I would like to find a "point and shoot" camera with the largest possible sensor and I'd like as much zoom as is feasible in this type of camera. I have been looking at the newest Canon G7x which does seem to have most of what I want. Other suggestions are welcome.

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Suggestion - Have you thought about renting a camera for a week to try out firsthand how it feels and how it performs for you? LensRentals.com is a very good source for doing that. Their rental process is “down to a science” and their customer service is excellent. Call them and speak with one of their reps for practical suggestions.

LParis Loc: Victoria, BC Canada

thanks for the suggestion.

rjaywallace wrote:

Suggestion - Have you thought about renting a camera for a week to try out firsthand how it feels and how it performs for you? LensRentals.com is a very good source for doing that. Their rental process is “down to a science” and their customer service is excellent. Call them and speak with one of their reps for practical suggestions.

tomad Loc: North Carolina

LParis wrote:

i would like a point and shoot type camera (my bri... (show quote)

A Panasonic Lumix ZS100 fits your description exactly: 1" sensor, RAW, 250mm zoom, excellent image quality in a small camera that will fit in a jacket pocket. I wouldn't exactly call it a point and shoot as it has a lot of the capabilities of a DSLR, but you can use it in auto mode.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

LParis wrote:

i would like a point and shoot type camera (my bri... (show quote)

Compact, raw, viewfinder.
https://www.lifewire.com/best-viewfinder-cameras-493677
http://www.compactcamerawithviewfinder.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/compact-cameras-with-viewfinders

Comparison sites -
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

tomad wrote:

A Panasonic Lumix ZS100 fits your description exactly: 1" sensor, RAW, 250mm zoom, excellent image quality in a small camera that will fit in a jacket pocket. I wouldn't exactly call it a point and shoot as it has a lot of the capabilities of a DSLR, but you can use it in auto mode.

Hello tomad
I have recently read that a 1" sensor is anything but that, and is considerably smaller. In fact, from what I read, I think that some manufacturers are guilty of misrepresentation.

tomad Loc: North Carolina

Delderby wrote:

Hello tomad
I have recently read that a 1" sensor is anything but that, and is considerably smaller. In fact, from what I read, I think that some manufacturers are guilty of misrepresentation.

True, they are not really 1" in size. The op said he had used an FZ1000 and liked it. The FZ100 uses the same sensor and is essentially (internally) the same camera in a much smaller size, hence the smaller zoom.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

tomad wrote:

True, they are not really 1" in size. The op said he had used an FZ1000 and liked it. The FZ100 uses the same sensor and is essentially (internally) the same camera in a much smaller size, hence the smaller zoom.

Got you, and the smaller range zoom should really have better IQ!

alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...

LParis wrote:

yes I did attach a jpeg previously - i really wanted to attach the RAW file but it not allow it
I'm attaching another file which I converted from raw to jpeg then used strong denoise on it - it still looks terrible. I think I will be sending the camera back. thanks for your help through

I think you may want to reconsider the capabilities of your "new" camera, because ...

There is "no free lunch" when shooting in compromised lighting situations ...

If-and-when you use a higher ISO then you will typically get a less satisfactory image than when shooting at (for example) 100 ISO ...

And, I would classify the lighting in the sample you included as being compromised.

With THAT in mind, you may want to consider shooting the same scene with BOTH cameras at the same time at the same ISO/etc. so that you can achieve a better assessment of the "new" camera's capabilities-or-deficiencies.

Leitz Loc: Solms

LParis wrote:

i would like a point and shoot type camera (my bri... (show quote)

You know the specs you want - seems you ought to be able to do some research on your own, rather than ask others to do it for you.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Leitz wrote:

You know the specs you want - seems you ought to be able to do some research on your own, rather than ask others to do it for you.

It is probable that the OP was seeking personal exeriences.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

LParis wrote:

Hi, having owned the FZ1000, I know that is much too heavy. I also own a Nikon bridge camera with a long zoom - the weight on that is okay but the Nikon does not shoot in RAW. I would like to find a "point and shoot" camera with the largest possible sensor and I'd like as much zoom as is feasible in this type of camera. I have been looking at the newest Canon G7x which does seem to have most of what I want. Other suggestions are welcome.

Still fuzzy, but it seems you are ok with the quality from a 1" sensor. So you are looking for a 12 oz camera with a 24-100 (equiv) zoom that shoots raw. I suggest you visit a store that sells some of these.

Leitz Loc: Solms

Delderby wrote:

It is probable that the OP was seeking personal experiences.

I should think one ought to at least research enough to narrow their options down to a few models, in this case based primarily upon weight and sensor size, then ask specific questions. But then, I believe that facts speak louder than opinions, so what do I know?

tomad Loc: North Carolina

LParis wrote:

thanks for replying. in my experience the FZ1000 is 100 x better than this point and shoot which I bought. I never had any noise issues with it.

Believe me, the Panasonic ZS100 tics all your boxes and it's small and light weight. It uses the same 1" sensor as the FZ1000, so if you liked the results from that you will like the results just as much in a much smaller package that weighs only 11 ounces... search no further.