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Dec 10, 2017 07:03:33   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BJW wrote:
Sadly, the time has come where I have to replace my dear D500, and I look to my friends and colleagues at UHH for guidance, and solace. Her weight, when coupled with my 70-200 f 2.8 has just gotten too heavy and too bulky for me to carry lately, especially to the high school ice hockey games that I shoot. I have no choice but to switch to lighter gear, if I am to continue my sports photography activities.

I suppose that would take me into the realm of mirrorless/MFT cameras. While I have done the research in terms of the specs of the various brands, I would appreciate input from those who have actually used MFT cameras (Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm, Lumix, etc.) in those situations where the D500 excels. In a word, I want smaller and lighter but of at least equal quality. The D500 has served me very well for indoor sports photography, in these areas: superb low light performance, a burst rate of at least 10fps, camera body ergonomics with ease of handling for fast moving action shots; great Auto Focus; and a rational and user-friendly menu system (or one that has a good a guide as Steve Perry's). Because I don't use a tripod or monopod for the type of sports photography I do, I recognize that much of the weight I'm complaining about is attributable to the long lens I use. So, I'd also be grateful for any suggestions as to comparable lenses for MFT bodies which are substantially lighter in weight. Fortunately, budgetary limitations need not be considered.

Many thanks,

BJW
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It is time to man up, if that rig is too heavy the mirrorless will only save you a pound or a little more. Looks like it is time to go to the phone, you will be happy and it will not be too heavy. And, you don't need the heavyness of the 2.8, you could go to the 4 version, it would then be only a matter of ounces differences, MAN UP.

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Dec 10, 2017 07:22:12   #
rayr
 
I faced this same situation with a D750 and a Tamron 150-600 lens. I did a lot of research and about 8 months ago, I settled on the Olympus OMD EM1 Mark ll. I use it with the Panasonic Leica 100-400 lens and am learning to like this camera more every day. I have added a couple extra lenses and am currently looking at the Zuiko 12 to 100 pro lens. I still usually take the 750 with me when I go out to shoot birds and eagles, but find that I rarely use it. Shot with the Olympus and the Pany 100-400.



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Dec 10, 2017 07:34:17   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
Really sorry to hear of your problems . I have mobility issues as well and am on the same road, its painful. I realised that although the mirrorless camera are lighter , the lens is still the same . I almost got sucked in to this "EFV" nonsense . The Equivalent field of view on a crop sensor . A 200mm lens is just that, 200mm and no EFV will give you the same focal length . Don't know if its any help but :

1-You may care to try the Peak Design clutch strap on your camera. This is a great help to me , very easily adjustable and helps support your camera holding hand. It enabled me to keep my D810 . Made me very happy.

2-I now use a monopod to support the lens from time to time , the reduced strain on the hands enables me to hand home for a period from time to time.

Wish you well.

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Dec 10, 2017 08:11:04   #
Grand Loc: Lebanon, Pa
 
What's your price?

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Dec 10, 2017 08:16:46   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
It is my understanding that Sony, not sure about Fuji is a cropped sensor body, not MFT like Olympus or Panasonic. By the way, Olympus and Panasonic bodies can use lenses made by each other in their camera bodies without adapters. I have a couple of Olympus bodies and I use Panasonic lenses with them without issues.
Since you shoot action as far as I know MFT bodies are not better than dSLR cameras for that purpose. The Olympus EM-1 Mk II has phase detection and contrast detection sensors but I have never used one and I do not know if its performance excels at those subjects.
I know that mirrorless is the future. Cameras can be made lighter and smaller with the bonus that the lack of mirror allows to shoot a minimum of 10 FPS, I believe 20 in the case of the EM-1 Mk II. Image quality from these little cameras when coupled with good optics is excellent.
Do you homework before you say goodbye to your D500.

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Dec 10, 2017 08:24:55   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Hammer wrote:
Really sorry to hear of your problems . I have mobility issues as well and am on the same road, its painful. I realised that although the mirrorless camera are lighter , the lens is still the same . I almost got sucked in to this "EFV" nonsense . The Equivalent field of view on a crop sensor . A 200mm lens is just that, 200mm and no EFV will give you the same focal length . Don't know if its any help but :

1-You may care to try the Peak Design clutch strap on your camera. This is a great help to me , very easily adjustable and helps support your camera holding hand. It enabled me to keep my D810 . Made me very happy.

2-I now use a monopod to support the lens from time to time , the reduced strain on the hands enables me to hand home for a period from time to time.

Wish you well.
Really sorry to hear of your problems . I have mob... (show quote)


You make a good point my camera with the battery grip is pretty heavy carrying it by hand gets heavy and a neck strap digs in. I bought a shoulder strap and barely feel the weight.

Makes me wonder if you could use a counterweight with a camera, as you bring the camera up the counter weight would go down, probably useless if what you really need is a hip replacement. But it might shift the load so you are effectively raising and lowering a few ounces.

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Dec 10, 2017 08:43:00   #
BJW
 
Thank you all for your responses, suggestions and the comparison links. I’m going to try a 300mm f4 to see if the weight will make a difference and I’ll push up the ISO a bit. Both the objective ratings and the subjective reports put the D500 above MFT cameras, so maybe I should start working out more vigorously and pumping some iron before I throw the baby out with the bath water. Thanks much.
BJW

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Dec 10, 2017 08:47:10   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
BJW wrote:
Sadly, the time has come where I have to replace my dear D500, and I look to my friends and colleagues at UHH for guidance, and solace. Her weight, when coupled with my 70-200 f 2.8 has just gotten too heavy and too bulky for me to carry lately, especially to the high school ice hockey games that I shoot. I have no choice but to switch to lighter gear, if I am to continue my sports photography activities.

I suppose that would take me into the realm of mirrorless/MFT cameras. While I have done the research in terms of the specs of the various brands, I would appreciate input from those who have actually used MFT cameras (Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm, Lumix, etc.) in those situations where the D500 excels. In a word, I want smaller and lighter but of at least equal quality. The D500 has served me very well for indoor sports photography, in these areas: superb low light performance, a burst rate of at least 10fps, camera body ergonomics with ease of handling for fast moving action shots; great Auto Focus; and a rational and user-friendly menu system (or one that has a good a guide as Steve Perry's). Because I don't use a tripod or monopod for the type of sports photography I do, I recognize that much of the weight I'm complaining about is attributable to the long lens I use. So, I'd also be grateful for any suggestions as to comparable lenses for MFT bodies which are substantially lighter in weight. Fortunately, budgetary limitations need not be considered.

Many thanks,

BJW
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The new Panasonic G6 ships in Jan. 2018 you will find it comparable to da D500 and Panasonic is also going to start shipping a brand new 200mm f 2.8

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Dec 10, 2017 08:50:52   #
BJW
 
You mean the G9. It looks like a real option. And I do love those Leica lenses. Thnx.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:08:26   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Hammer wrote:
I almost got sucked in to this "EFV" nonsense . The Equivalent field of view on a crop sensor . A 200mm lens is just that, 200mm and no EFV will give you the same focal length.

Not nonsense. Yes, the focal length remains the same, but the sensor makes different use of it. I have two Pentax cameras - a 1.5 crop K-30 and a 4.65 crop Q-7. When I mount a K-mount 70-300mm lens on the Q-7, I get views only a very expensive lens would give me on the K-30 {or nine times as many Pixels}

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-473096-1.html

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Dec 10, 2017 09:09:39   #
dhowland
 
maybe say farewell to your lens instead? I wonder if you can find an equivalent or near-equivalent zoom that isn't as heavy as the one you use now. That could make a big difference.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:16:48   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Look instead of disposing of the D500 but rather the 70-200, replacing it with the 70-300 which is smaller and much lighter.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:35:20   #
William Royer Loc: Kansas
 
This topic has arisen with increasing frequency both in this forum and on Facebook. In fact, I asked a similar question just a few days ago in both places as I considered moving from my Nikon D810 system to the Olympus EM1 Mk2 system. (Which I’m in process of doing.). Here are my question and the responses: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-501095-1.html. On FB this question received around 60 responses. (See FB “group” on that camera). The point is that it is a frequent thought as the Nikon/Canon top systems have continued to grow in size, weight, expense and intrusiveness. (It seems that the main culprit on weight/size is the lens more so than the body.) Not very long ago, I would not have considered a change. Now, a good mirrorless system is a reasonable option worth consideration — with the answer being dependent on personal needs, tastes and budget. Good luck on your decision process.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:37:13   #
Old44
 
I switched to a mirrorless camera for the same reason and regretted it immediately. It definitely was lighter but the IQ didn't compare with my DSLR. It was a costly mistake, given all the DSLR gear I traded in. A month later I took back the mirrorless (at a signifiant loss) and purchased a Nikon D7500 and the Sigma 100-400 and am delighted I did. Yes, it's heavier but so much better IQ.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:58:39   #
Novicus Loc: north and east
 
Is the Nikon 1 system in consideration ?

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