burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Many folks don't understand it's not an either/or proposition! Lightroom makes a great organizer, catalog, rating system, print engine, web posting tool, and GLOBAL image adjuster/editor. Photoshop is the granddaddy of PIXEL LEVEL editing. There is some overlap. Lightroom is a workflow tool. Photoshop and Lightroom both contain ACR (Adobe Camera Raw), a powerful image adjustment tool. But Photoshop does extensive masking, layering, text overlay, retouching, color separations, and many other things that Lightroom cannot do.

These programs are complementary, not exclusive, to one another. That's why Adobe bundles them together in the CC suite!

Maybe one day, they'll figure out how to combine the two together with an interface that isn't totally confusing or intimidating... but I doubt it.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Exactly what I was going to say. You can push pixels around in Lightroom with the Spot Removal brush but, to me it's like working with one arm tied behind your back compared to Photoshop which was designed for pixel editing. In general, Most people use Lightroom's develop module to manipulate images on a global level. They don't take advantage of the adjustment brush tools for local adjustments because they are a little difficult and slow to use.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Exactly how I use LR and PS.

That chart is probably a little different now. LR Classic CC 2018 is a bit easier to use than LR CC 2015 was. The reviewers probably forgot about Adobe Bridge. If you use other Adobe apps, that's an important asset manager that pairs okay with Photoshop. But LR is better for photographers.

Carusoswi

And, as a LR/PSCC subscriber, I will reiterate that you should also consider Darktable/Gimp. It is free now and forever, runs on all platforms (not just two).
It is not one bit more difficult to learn that the Adobe offerings, and, for all but the most specifically focused photographers, will provide everything you need to develop your RAW images. No bit depth limitations with version 9, nondestructive RAW based manipulation in Darktable, finish up in Gimp.

I love the Adobe offerings, but it amazes me that these free and powerful offerings are not more often recommended to those just starting out in the photo manipulation realm.
Just saying'.
Caruso

NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island

Will continue to increase and increase? Well, so far there have been no increases at all. Can't continue what isn't started.

SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont

Also, if an increase occurs and someone wants to quit, they can! That's what "subscription" means - you sign up for a certain length of time and can cancel when you want. People who go to another program because of what might happen are probably not appreciating what the Adobe CC plan offers!

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Lightroom and other parametric editing programs are probably best for traditional photographers.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Yeah, at least 80% of the time. Or, at least for about 80% of what most of us need to do in post-processing. For the other 20%, there's always Photoshop, or Gimp, or Affinity Photo, or similar software.

Angel Star Photography Loc: Tacoma, WA

That's about as I stated in my posts back on 6 Dec. I really like the organizational feature of Lightroom and the ability to make those initial, immediate edits non-destructively as it gives an opportunity to view keepers, losers, possibilities, and salvageability. There is a lot of power in just Lightroom alone and I would venture to say that with the latest updates, Lightroom is more intuitive for just about any level. I cannot emphasis enough, though, how Lightroom really makes the organization of one's images more efficient and effective. For this, I would even recommend Lightroom for a novice at editing. With the integration between Lightroom and Photoshop, it is also very easy to move into Photoshop when one desires and return to Lightroom, thus, retaining the organizational functions of Lightroom.

Just as a side note, there is also a small benefit in Lightroom's ability to also edit videos. I have not taken it to that level, yet, but I have watched it being done it. I suspect that Lightroom could be the one organizer for both video and stills.

Angel Star Photography Loc: Tacoma, WA

Thank you, Mizzee for both of your replies. The intuitiveness of Lightroom makes it very easy for one to jump in and start experimenting with editing while also not destroying the original. Organization and the non-destructiveness of Lightroom make for a very effective application. I look at the non-destructiveness much like treating the original files as the negatives (kinda showing my age here) where one would take a negative and through various techniques create an impressive image on paper. One could always pick up the negative and try something different. Lightroom permits this ability without unnecessary disk space consumption but I am repeating myself here. It sounds like the graphic designer is very adept at much of the workings of the two products. Again, thank you.

Angel Star Photography Loc: Tacoma, WA

Pierce County?? Well, hello! It's been a while since I have been to the public libraries. I'll have to check that out! Thank you!

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

If you have a library card with number, you do it all on line. If you don't have a card, you probably need to go a real library!