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Nov 23, 2017 06:33:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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In your case, I would go for the new camera. Either one will be a big step above your D7100, which you can keep or sell on ebay.

Comparison sites -

(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Nov 23, 2017 06:39:32   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
whwiden wrote:
It seems to me that your weak link in lenses is the Tamron 18-200mm. The Sigma 50-100 f/1.8 Art lens is very good. Maybe the best DX lens in that range. It is a little short on the long end, and it is fairly large and heavy--not quite the FF equivalent of a 70-200mm--but close. If you do not often need a longer reach, I would look at that lens. The f/1.8 will really let you shoot at higher shutter speeds. And, it is so sharp you can get away with crops in many cases. Your 50mm Nikon is very good on a crop body, so there is some overlap. You might take the Tokina, the 35mm dx, and the Sigma, and have a very nice well regarded lens set.
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While I agree with much of this post, your tremor is a BIG problem, and vibration reduction lenses need consideration. The tremor is likely to worsen as you age, and that too is a consideration. A fast VR lens in the range most useful to your interests should be considered. I too am a Sigma fan - top quality at lower cost than OEM glass.

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Nov 23, 2017 07:11:12   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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Your Nikkor 50mm 1.8 is probably a full frame lens and it is very good. I have the Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 and love it on my D610 as a "normal" prime and use it on my D7100 as a roughly 70mm f/1.2 portrait and mid lens. You do have to be careful on DOF though because if you are using it as a portrait lens and wide open you may not have your subject's face in good focus. I've shot a couple that just the eye was in focus and the point of the nose forward and from the ear (or shoulder) back were blurry. It does also make a very good low light lens. I'm assuming that your 35mm is similar and if both are prime lenses, their zoom counterparts will suffer in quality. So, it really depends on what you are shooting and trying to get in your photos. I'm not saying don't purchase new glass, just saying you may not want to get rid of your old glass.

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Nov 23, 2017 07:15:14   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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Your camera and glass are better than you will ever be.

Save. Your. Money. Please.


Don't get caught up in the GAS thing here on the 'hog. It won't help....really it won't. It WILL give you a temporary feeling of euphoria while shooting it and then 6 months from now it will be no different than the gear you are thinking of upgrading from now.

It's a mental hamster wheel...avoid it.


Save your cash...go on your trip.

Family man FIRST....photographer SECOND.

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Nov 23, 2017 07:16:16   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Hey Gaines, I am just down the road from you and love roaming the Battlefield looking for shots... Take some anti gas medication and spend the money on the family; you have great glass and equipment.

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Nov 23, 2017 07:20:33   #
whwiden
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
While I agree with much of this post, your tremor is a BIG problem, and vibration reduction lenses need consideration. The tremor is likely to worsen as you age, and that too is a consideration. A fast VR lens in the range most useful to your interests should be considered. I too am a Sigma fan - top quality at lower cost than OEM glass.


A 45mm Tamron f/1.8 is a very good lens with VR, and is very discounted now.

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Nov 23, 2017 07:21:43   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
gainesn wrote:
Wilsond12 - agree totally. I have a 36x36 over the mantle taken with the 7100 and the 50/1.8 and I see no grain and no noise. (On1 resize helps). I seem to have problems with outdoor shots without a tripod. With a tripod and some time, I can get what I consider "keepers" pretty easily.


Forget pixel peeping. Forget noise and sharpness.

Nobody ever said "what a great image! Just look at the lack of grain and sharpness!"


Content is king and that's the hard part. Work on that, keep your cash for the trip, work on getting good content and forget about better lenses, better noise specs, all that boloney that makes the 'hog go on a daily basis.

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Nov 23, 2017 08:23:19   #
gainesn Loc: Chickamauga, GA
 
Thanks! I like the thought.

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Nov 23, 2017 08:26:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
gainesn wrote:
Thanks! I like the thought.

You might want to consider using the <quote reply> button ....

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Nov 23, 2017 09:27:42   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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I would keep most of what you have and sell the Tamron zoom and pick up a Nikon 70-200 f/4 zoom. The rest of what you have should work well. If you need help fine tuning, Bryan Peterson’s Understandinf Exposure is always a great refresher.

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Nov 23, 2017 09:47:02   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Let me start from the beginning, the D7100 is a great camera. If you are not happy with your photos another camera is not the answer.
You seem to have a good assortment of interchangeable lenses. I am not familiar with the Tamron 18-200 but I am with the other lenses you have and all of them are very capable of excellent images. If I had to replace something and as I said, I am not familiar with the Tamron 18-200, it would be the Tamron lens. I favor lenses made by the camera manufacturer and in your case a tele zoom is missing, perhaps for those action shots you talk about. Nikon makes an excellent 70-300 VR lens but only you can tell if that lens is for you to have.

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Nov 23, 2017 10:01:34   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
RKL349 wrote:
I would keep most of what you have and sell the Tamron zoom and pick up a Nikon 70-200 f/4 zoom. The rest of what you have should work well. If you need help fine tuning, Bryan Peterson’s Understandinf Exposure is always a great refresher.


I totally agree. The Nikon 70-200 f4 is a great lens and runs circles around the Tamron. Even a 18-200 or 18-300 Nikon would produce better than your Tamron. If weight isn't your issue, try a 80-200 Nikon. Its a great lens and available quite cheap now and even available new if you like. As some have said, the 24-70 2.8 is great or if money is an issue look for a good used Nikon 28-70 2.8. Lets face it, if you're my age, most lenses will last longer than you and will need a lot less maintenance in the future.

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Nov 23, 2017 10:43:43   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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The only reason to go for a more modern camera is because you need, (want?), the ability which the newer cameras have. For example, I just purchased a newer Pentax, (K1), because it has much better low light abilities, better color abilities, better anti-shake abilities, and I'm wondering about the pixel abilities and astrophotography it has.

Being a full frame is a bonus as I rarely print larger than what a crop camera can normally do.

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Nov 23, 2017 10:49:06   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
gainesn wrote:
Question: We're taking a family trip next year and I want the best pics I can get. I have a D7100 with a Nikon 35-1.8, and 50-1.8, a Tokina 11-17 2.8, and a Tamron 18-200 zoom. I'm thinking of an upgrade to the D7500 or D500, but I'm also considering new/better glass. I need some sage advice, please. I'd like to spend less than $1,500. I'm not refurb/used adverse. If you recommend glass, please let me know which lens and why. I shoot mostly landscapes, long exposures, grand children and action stuff, but I've also done three weddings. I have no studio and don't do portraits. Thanks for the help.
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I have both the 7100 and a 500. Both cameras have excellent image quality. However the glass makes all the difference in the world. I would say stick to your 7100 and upgrade glass. I shoot sports with both. On the 500 I shoot with a 80-400 4.5-5.6, and the 7100 24-70 2.8 or 70-200 2.8. Both lenses I bought used and saved a lot of money. From B & H camera, not a complaint.
I paid 1350.00 for the 24-70 2.8 and it produces beautiful IQ. on the 7100.
Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving.
First shot 7100 24-70
Second shot 500 80-400

24-70 2.8
24-70 2.8...
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D500 80-400 4.5-5.6 vr
D500 80-400 4.5-5.6 vr...
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Nov 23, 2017 10:52:59   #
Elsiss Loc: Bayside, NY, Boynton Beach, Fl.
 
You are having a spell of GAS. Your glass is very good as well as your d7100. If it was me, I would be more inclined to listen to suggestions for a new lens. With your budget, you have quite a few possibilities. I will allow fellow hoggers to help you spend your money. Have a safe and memorable trip!

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