The list certainly describes what I remember.
In Philly, it was macaroni with gravy.
machia wrote:
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Good old South Philly ?
Of course, youse guys want to stop in for some macaroni?
speters wrote:
Not a single note on that list is true!
For you..............but very true for many!
DoninIL wrote:
Oh, how times have changed.
Pizza came in the late fifties. Never heard of it until my brother-in-law bought some, and where I lived in Los Angeles, I could get oranges and bananas year around. But never heard of pasta, it was always spaghetti. Otherwise it's mostly true.
Except for a little outdoor grilling and using tea bags instead of leaves, pretty much spot on. Fruit was seasonal, and was purchased only if on sale. Many called pizza "tomato pie" and pies were so much larger then. When out, ordering for lunch was simply called a "slice". Cooking was done with either butter or more commonly "Crisco" or olive oil by most Mediterraneans. We never knew what deep-dish pizza was. Never heard the word "pasta". We thought thin crust was the worlds standard for pizza. More Italians made wine in their basements than spaghetti. Some did both. They also referred to the tomato sauce as "gravy" and it was never from a can or jar - a homemade sauce (or gravy) was a source of pride for both the mother and the father for family and guests alike. All sauce ingredients were secret and the exact recipe was never shared.
For southerners and transplanted northeners, Sunday dinner was usually fried chicken, homemade biscuits, fresh cut green beans and/or tomatoes from the garden, mashed taters from real potatoes, and homemade apple pie for dessert. Store bought pies were extravagant . Canned soups were okay for lunch, but never for supper. Frozen food was either concentrated OJ or ice cream, soon after TV dinners changed the world and more moms became employed - and we haven't stopped trying to make it more "convenient" to live ever since. The only thing that remains unchanged is the argument between "gravy" and "sauce". lol
sirlensalot wrote:
Except for a little outdoor grilling and using tea bags instead of leaves, pretty much spot on. Fruit was seasonal, and was purchased only if on sale. Many called pizza "tomato pie" and pies were so much larger then. When out, ordering for lunch was simply called a "slice". Cooking was done with either butter or more commonly "Crisco" or olive oil by most Mediterraneans. We never knew what deep-dish pizza was. Never heard the word "pasta". We thought thin crust was the worlds standard for pizza. More Italians made wine in their basements than spaghetti. Some did both. They also referred to the tomato sauce as "gravy" and it was never from a can or jar - a homemade sauce (or gravy) was a source of pride for both the mother and the father for family and guests alike. All sauce ingredients were secret and the exact recipe was never shared.
For southerners and transplanted northeners, Sunday dinner was usually fried chicken, homemade biscuits, fresh cut green beans and/or tomatoes from the garden, mashed taters from real potatoes, and homemade apple pie for dessert. Store bought pies were extravagant . Canned soups were okay for lunch, but never for supper. Frozen food was either concentrated OJ or ice cream, soon after TV dinners changed the world and more moms became employed - and we haven't stopped trying to make it more "convenient" to live ever since. The only thing that remains unchanged is the argument between "gravy" and "sauce". lol
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I never heard the word 'gravy, and I have my own 'secret' recipe. Grandma used to cook pretty much like the above except she cooked black-eyed peas like you would string beans. Oh, and you forgot the cucumbers.
joehel2 wrote:
Of course, youse guys want to stop in for some macaroni?
I'll bring the bread and wine π
Grandparent on my Moms side came to PHILADELPHIA in 1910 before moving up to Newark in 1926 . South Philly . Still have my Grandfathers camera from back then .
Have a Happy Thanksgiving !
machia wrote:
I'll bring the bread and wine π
Grandparent on my Moms side came to PHILADELPHIA in 1910 before moving up to Newark in 1926 . South Philly . Still have my Grandfathers camera from back then .
Have a Happy Thanksgiving !
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Machia.
Quinn 4 wrote:
The 1950s was the Dark Age for me. Nuclear War at any time. Under your desk to be safe from an nuclear attack. What is communism? All you need to known is that it is bad. America could not do any wrong. Schools told you to think, but if you did all hell was to pay. Never question what you were told. If you were not WASP you were none. If you had a TV one channel was great. Car were only good for 50,000 miles, if you luck. New cars had that smell that make one sick. What you could eat was control by your mother. Was told that drugs was intercity problem only. Money became God. Do what every to took to got it. Rock & Roll, if not destroy, was to have very tight control over it. To me the Dark Age began to end by the middle 1960s. I was wrong, the dark age is making a come back today in this country.
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That's a pretty depressing view. I guess it's all in how you look at it. I grew up during the same era and don't have such a dark view of it.
lukevaliant wrote:
its all true
pasta has always been around for a long time, curry was used in about every household, pizza was everywhere, Bananas and Oranges were around at all times, oil was always used for cooking, especially extra virgin olive oil, of course green tea was around and yoghurt was just as popular as it is now! Seaweed was always considered a food (for several hundred of years) and Kebab could be had about around every corner then as well!
speters wrote:
pasta has always been around for a long time, curry was used in about every household, pizza was everywhere, Bananas and Oranges were around at all times, oil was always used for cooking, especially extra virgin olive oil, of course green tea was around and yoghurt was just as popular as it is now! Seaweed was always considered a food (for several hundred of years) and Kebab could be had about around every corner then as well!
You must be quite young to remember all of those things in your childhood. I'm, 90 now and you have to be around my son's age or younger. I can remember when I was in jr. high, if I had a nickle I would run down to the local store and buy a nickle's worth of penny candy. Remember, Pizza didn't come out until after the war, and it was some years later when we started cooking with olive oil. And what country did you come from where you ate sea weed? Its still not stocked in most stores.
shelty wrote:
You must be quite young to remember all of those things in your childhood. I'm, 90 now and you have to be around my son's age or younger. I can remember when I was in jr. high, if I had a nickle I would run down to the local store and buy a nickle's worth of penny candy. Remember, Pizza didn't come out until after the war, and it was some years later when we started cooking with olive oil. And what country did you come from where you ate sea weed? Its still not stocked in most stores.
The first pizzeria in the USA, Lombardiβs opened in Manhattan in 1905 and several people who worked there moved on and opened their own place, well before the war, presumong you mean WWII. And all my mother, grandmothers and aunts ever cooked with was olive oil and sometimes butter, or the two together. As I said earlier, guess it depends on where you lived and who you were. To those of you who say gravy instead of sauce, gravy is described as a type of sauce made from the drippings of cooked or cooking meat to which a thickening agent such as flour, corn starch or a rouix and is usually brown. Did your mother or grandmothers add either to what you had for Sunday dinner? But call it what you want, just make it, make it taste good and let me know when itβs ready. π
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