fishone0 Loc: Kingman AZ

are you shooting in low light? if not then how about the 70 to 200mm f/4. That's the way I went, it is much lighter and has IS.

gessman Loc: Colorado

No night games in Little League? In Dallas? We had almost all night games 90 miles to the south of Dallas in Waco when my 3 sons played and I coached. We did have some nice fields though, with lights, back in the 70s' on the memorial fields named after my friend, Marvin Norcross, now deceased. I'm sure you know the name if you know Texas Little League. That's where they play the Texas championship tournament each year. We mostly played at night because parents had to work during the day and couldn't make it to the games. Wow! No night games in Dallas. Unbelievable. My, how times change. And you haven't scanned in any of those shots. How could you not?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I know that older non VR versions are. Just off the top of my head I don't know if new ones are. I do know that the 70-200 VRII is supposed to be a fantastic lens.

PatrickTheCop Loc: Spartanburg, SC

ok gotcha, now I see where you're coming from and understand. Thanks for clarifying for me. :)

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

I have the 70-200 2.8 IS gen 1. I love it for using in low light handheld with wildlife. I don't know if I could do as well without the IS.

joedebo Loc: around Buffalo NY

You have an awesome fourth yourself

joedebo Loc: around Buffalo NY

gosh I'm hoping that is just sarcasm for that shot I was surprised I hadn't deleted it

gessman Loc: Colorado

Oh, I meant to tell you that you tossed in a couple of dang nice shots here. Good action on the ball but I really liked the mom and child. Very nice images.

gessman Loc: Colorado

I'm sorry, but it's a little hard to tell to who you are replying to here. It would help us if you would use the "quote reply" button rather than just the "reply." I hope I didn't say anything to insult you. I was not addressing you at all in my posts but even then, I don't recall seeing anything I thought was aimed at your post or the image.

gessman Loc: Colorado

I'd just like to say, for what it's worth, that I have Sigma and Tamron lens but they stay at home in ziploc bags to avoid accumulating dust. My over-abiding sense of this is that L glass is, on balance, sharper than either Sigma or Tamron, one on one, although I cannot attest to that 100% across the whole spectrum of lens but that's probably not the worst of it. The worst of it is that the L glass is quicker to focus in most cases. Enough quicker to make it worthwhile. I shoot mostly action shots, semi-pro football, wildlife, etc. To me, it's no competition. Others will disagree - mostly, it would seem, those who have Sigma and Tamron but no L glass.

When it comes to glass, it seems true that you get what you pay for, in general. Lots of folks come on here and say, "I'm happy or I'm satisfied" with such and such lens and I don't doubt them. I have invited many of them to demonstrate what makes them happy by putting some example images on here but they often do not respond by doing that. I don't think it's adequate for people to come on here acting like seasoned pros advocating what they own and use without being willing to show the rest of us exactly what they are saying. Some of them are just lonely, I suppose and need to join into the conversation even when they know they have nothing to contribute that will help a person out who is trying to make a decision. Frankly, I wouldn't ask for advice very often from the folks on here. Too many people obviously don't have much to offer but do anyway. Now, that's my 'being nasty' for today even though I'm not lying. Tomorrow is a new day. Maybe I'll watch my tongue a little better and be a little more generous tomorrow. It's probably just the stress of the holiday.

joedebo Loc: around Buffalo NY

well thanks for showing me how to reply I think I have already made a couple of mistakes then and no insult taken I was thinking about sarcasm as it was a picture of a horses rear that I posted but I was amazed at what sometimes feels like a twenty pound camera could take such a picture on the back of a horse one handed

gessman Loc: Colorado

You did good for a one-hander. The weight of these things can get pretty wearisome but still fun. You sure seem to be combining a couple of enjoyable pass-times pretty well. Keep having fun and welcome to uhh.

joedebo Loc: around Buffalo NY

Ok thanks and thanks for showing me how to reply

gessman Loc: Colorado

Seeing that you're fairly new on uhh, I'd like to mention a couple of other things. There are a lot of good comparisons to be found with Google and also on Youtube.com. You can also use the "Search" facility on the top line of each page here on uhh and get results where a conversation has taken place before, often many times. Also, if you want to see who in uhh only talks and who demonstrates that they know what they are talking about with images, click on a person's user name or avatar name in the left hand column and that will take you to their profile where you can look at what they've submitted. There are some world-class professionals and world-renown photographers and videographers on uhh from about any type of endeavor from fashion to sports, or about any subject you might care to discuss. Many of those do not submit many, if any, images and that makes it rough to separate the 'do-ers' from the talkers in the beginning but you'll eventually come to recognize those folks even though they choose to not demonstrate their expertise beyond giving good advice. I'm not among those about whom I speak but I do try offer up images to demonstrate what I'm trying to say. It would help if the "big boys" would use pictures to demonstrate their point in a given situation to substantiate that they know what they're talking about. Some do, but not enough. Those who do often do so in the middle of someone else's thread when they're answering a question rather than post examples of their work in separate threads. It works well that way in those instances but it then gets buried and cannot be found or referred to.

joedebo Loc: around Buffalo NY

Well thanks very much for this information I have already read some very knowledgeable answers to things that I will have to try out myself. I am self taught and I like to gather as much knowledge as I can so everything is greatly appreciated .