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Nov 6, 2017 00:16:42   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
No, it's not about a dancing craze. It's to do with the LOWEST ISO your camera can attain ... enough with the high ISO capability! Who cares about 3.2M?
This is much more important! Some cameras can go as low as 50. Some can do 64. Some can do 80. But most reign in at 100. Is there a significant advantage to those dig cams which can perform at lower than 100 ISO, or not? ... Clearly, if you're a 'scaper ... the lower, the better - right? ... What else?

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Nov 6, 2017 00:29:07   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
My Canon G11 can go down to a lowest native ISO of 80, however if you activate the 3 stop internal "ND" filter it effectively goes down to an ISO of 10.
Very handy when shooting those long expoures in reasonable light levels.

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Nov 6, 2017 00:34:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
My Canon G11 can go down to a lowest native ISO of 80, however if you activate the 3 stop internal "ND" filter it effectively goes down to an ISO of 10.
Very handy when shooting those long expoures in reasonable light levels.


Wow!!!! .... That's for Tripods, only ... huh, Richard?

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Nov 6, 2017 00:36:54   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Wow!!!! .... That's for Tripods, only ... huh, Richard?


Not necesarily in bright light although I don't use it that way. Think sunny 16 guideline.

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Nov 6, 2017 00:42:00   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Wow!!!! .... That's for Tripods, only ... huh, Richard?


Here's an example shot in "reasonable" light levels with the filter activated to give me a longer exposure time.
A tripod, and remote was used for 1/2 second exposure. Canon G11, ISO 200 @ f5.6, 3 styop ND filter activated.

The bottom line is that it gives you more control.

Somesrby falls.
Somesrby falls....
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Nov 6, 2017 01:21:36   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Here's an example shot in "reasonable" light levels with the filter activated to give me a longer exposure time.
A tripod, and remote was used for 1/2 second exposure. Canon G11, ISO 200 @ f5.6, 3 styop ND filter activated.

The bottom line is that it gives you more control.


Wonderful shot!

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Nov 6, 2017 01:36:41   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Here's an example shot in "reasonable" light levels with the filter activated to give me a longer exposure time.
A tripod, and remote was used for 1/2 second exposure. Canon G11, ISO 200 @ f5.6, 3 styop ND filter activated.

The bottom line is that it gives you more control.


Yes ... gorgeous shot, Richard ....

Gives an almost 3D-like effect, with the close boulder, and all ...

Who's that at the bottom?

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Nov 6, 2017 02:00:57   #
AndiS Loc: Jakarta, Tangerang Selatan & Bali, Indonesia
 
Beautiful!.
RichardTaylor wrote:
Here's an example shot in "reasonable" light levels with the filter activated to give me a longer exposure time.
A tripod, and remote was used for 1/2 second exposure. Canon G11, ISO 200 @ f5.6, 3 styop ND filter activated.

The bottom line is that it gives you more control.

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Nov 6, 2017 02:44:15   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Chris T wrote:
No, it's not about a dancing craze. It's to do with the LOWEST ISO your camera can attain ... enough with the high ISO capability! Who cares about 3.2M?
This is much more important! Some cameras can go as low as 50. Some can do 64. Some can do 80. But most reign in at 100. Is there a significant advantage to those dig cams which can perform at lower than 100 ISO, or not? ... Clearly, if you're a 'scaper ... the lower, the better - right? ... What else?


To answer this question, it is important to define a term - Native ISO. Native ISO is the setting for which there is no amplifying of the analog signal you get from the sensor. This is also the ISO setting for which the camera produces the highest Dynamic Range.

Now it may be possible to set the ISO lower than the Native ISO (also called Base ISO). Many cameras allow for this. An example may be some camera that has a Native ISO of 100 but also includes an ISO setting of 50. This setting of 50 is below the Native ISO and it does not actually attenuate the analog signal from the sensor, but instead uses the same gain setting as the Native ISO, but it also causes the camera to expose for a longer period of time. So it probably does not actually cause any improvement such as higher dynamic range. Most of the time, there is not a good reason to shoot at lower than Native ISO unless one is looking for some special effect that would need a longer exposure time.

So in answer to your question, going below the Native ISO is not necessarily going to give you a better image. Most of the time, just stick with the Native ISO.

As for what the Native ISO is for any given camera, you will need to search the spec sheets of the camera. ISO of 100 is common. And some are higher.

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Nov 6, 2017 02:49:58   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
JimH123 wrote:
To answer this question, it is important to define a term - Native ISO. Native ISO is the setting for which there is no amplifying of the analog signal you get from the sensor. This is also the ISO setting for which the camera produces the highest Dynamic Range.

Now it may be possible to set the ISO lower than the Native ISO (also called Base ISO). Many cameras allow for this. An example may be some camera that has a Native ISO of 100 but also includes an ISO setting of 50. This setting of 50 is below the Native ISO and it does not actually attenuate the analog signal from the sensor, but instead uses the same gain setting as the Native ISO, but it also causes the camera to expose for a longer period of time. So it probably does not actually cause any improvement such as higher dynamic range. Most of the time, there is not a good reason to shoot at lower than Native ISO unless one is looking for some special effect that would need a longer exposure time.

So in answer to your question, going below the Native ISO is not necessarily going to give you a better image. Most of the time, just stick with the Native ISO.

As for what the Native ISO is for any given camera, you will need to search the spec sheets of the camera. ISO of 100 is common. And some are higher.
To answer this question, it is important to define... (show quote)


I've seen higher - but mostly on Bridges ... I think some of those start at 200 ISO. I had not realized - even when you pushed down from 100 to 50 - you were still shooting at 100, but with a slower time. Then why even bother with a push down setting, Jim? ....

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Nov 6, 2017 03:05:48   #
toxdoc42
 
Lovely photo. Is it "right out of the camera?" I enjoy drawing, water colors and pastels, but when using my camera I try to get the photo "in the camera," not with post processing.

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Nov 6, 2017 03:09:51   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
Lovely photo. Is it "right out of the camera?" I enjoy drawing, water colors and pastels, but when using my camera I try to get the photo "in the camera," not with post processing.


Why not just enjoy the photo?

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Nov 6, 2017 03:14:01   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
tdekany wrote:
Wonderful shot!


Thanks very much.

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Nov 6, 2017 03:15:36   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Yes ... gorgeous shot, Richard ....

Gives an almost 3D-like effect, with the close boulder, and all ...

Who's that at the bottom?


Thanks very much.
That's another member of the group I was shooting with.

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Nov 6, 2017 03:17:07   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
AndiS wrote:
Beautiful!.


Thank you.

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