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Nov 1, 2017 07:04:31   #
JPL
 
I saw a new 4x5 film camera project on Kickstarter. This seems to be very cheap and good camera for those who want to experiment with large format film without spending a lot of money on the gear. The camera is called Malefic camera and can still be had for as little as $109 if the backers will be many enough to launch the project. I could not resist to jump on this for curiosity sake

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Nov 1, 2017 07:06:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JPL wrote:
I saw a new 4x5 film camera project on Kickstarter. This seems to be very cheap and good camera for those who want to experiment with large format film without spending a lot of money on the gear. The camera is called Malefic camera and can still be had for as little as $109 if the backers will be many enough to launch the project. I could not resist to jump on this for curiosity sake


Interesting.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1876908573/malefic-camera

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Nov 1, 2017 07:07:18   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
Very good information.

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Nov 1, 2017 07:08:30   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
The name "Malefic" doesn't inspire confidence in me. Reminds me of "malevolent."

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Nov 1, 2017 07:27:52   #
lngroller
 
the $109 camera is fixed focus. of course no lens which is the most expensive part of a basic 4x5. why not find an old Calumet 400, 402 etc with lens on Ebay etc. and be able to have movements and focusing abilities? the cost for those is not very high. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Calumet-4x5-CC-400-Monorail-View-Camera-CC400-599/202085244364?epid=141747495&hash=item2f0d381dcc:g:4K8AAOSw9hdZ58pT

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Nov 1, 2017 07:31:58   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I've seen 'real' 4x5 cameras going for about that on line. I've never been inspired to 'invest' in a kickstarter project. There is no guarantee that they will be successful, or be around long enough to provide service if needed.
--Bob
JPL wrote:
I saw a new 4x5 film camera project on Kickstarter. This seems to be very cheap and good camera for those who want to experiment with large format film without spending a lot of money on the gear. The camera is called Malefic camera and can still be had for as little as $109 if the backers will be many enough to launch the project. I could not resist to jump on this for curiosity sake

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Nov 1, 2017 07:34:39   #
lngroller
 
watch this one, by the time you purchase film holders lens etc for the one you are looking at you will be above the starting bid on this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sinar-f-4x5-camera-with-Schneinder-5-6-210-lens-and-extension-tube/253234503129?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48741%26meid%3Da0728e6ca185470da123aa42435f4235%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D172952743998&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

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Nov 1, 2017 08:25:24   #
JPL
 


Thanks for the link, Jerry

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Nov 1, 2017 09:30:25   #
BebuLamar
 
I use a Polaroid 150 and simply put a sheet of 4x5 in it. It works fine producing image of 3.5x4.5 inch.

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Nov 1, 2017 23:14:28   #
Designdweeb Loc: Metro NYC & East Stroudsburg, PA
 
View cameras’ swings, tilts and shifts are the major part of the fun of using one! I’ve used a studio type and field type 4x5 with sheet film and several roll film adapters for 6x6, 6x7 and 6x9 formats to take advantage of the flexibility of these cameras. The kickstarter camera, albeit a cute idea, has none of those capabilities.

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Nov 2, 2017 06:11:28   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 


The Rubber Bands on the Film Holders are a good idea. I use masking tape as well. Those darn slides tend to open. Especially in a backpack.

I'd want a real 4x5" view camera. And do have two, a studio Rail Omega View and a Gundlach Folding Wooden Field Camera.

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Nov 2, 2017 06:26:25   #
JPL
 
lamiaceae wrote:
The Rubber Bands on the Film Holders are a good idea. I use masking tape as well. Those darn slides tend to open. Especially in a backpack.

I'd want a real 4x5" view camera. And do have two, a studio Rail Omega View and a Gundlach Folding Wooden Field Camera.


This is a really nice camera.
I agree that the traditional 4x5 camera is in many ways a good option with all the movements for tilt and shift. On the other hand the new camera on Kickstarter is light and easy to use and can be a lot of fun for newbies to experiment with. And no bellows to damage and less need for tripod are points to consider. Those who really get into this will of course want to get a real 4x5 sooner or later.

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Nov 2, 2017 08:55:59   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JPL wrote:
I saw a new 4x5 film camera project on Kickstarter. This seems to be very cheap and good camera for those who want to experiment with large format film without spending a lot of money on the gear. The camera is called Malefic camera and can still be had for as little as $109 if the backers will be many enough to launch the project. I could not resist to jump on this for curiosity sake

This is not related but I thought I would share a photo of my 8X10 century Kodak camera. The photo is not my camera, my camera has the base that matches the camera. I would not recommend it for the field.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=images+of+kodak+8X10+century+camera&fr=mcafee&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimg0.etsystatic.com%2F006%2F0%2F5858142%2Fil_570xN.386897598_4wtz.jpg#id=12&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimg0.etsystatic.com%2F006%2F0%2F5858142%2Fil_570xN.386897598_4wtz.jpg&action=click

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Nov 2, 2017 11:14:47   #
Jamers Loc: Michigan
 


Going to look into this, thanks, Jerry.

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Nov 2, 2017 12:46:54   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
I'll keep my cherrywood and chrome Wista DX field camera!



But this does look interesting and I really hope that they'll be successful.

Just keep in mind that you'll need an appropriate lens... and, if purchased new those start around $500 and go up to and over $3000 apiece.

Plus you'll need film holders... Which I was stunned to see are now selling new for $130 for a two-pack (each of which hold two sheets, so that's four shots total... I've got 30 or 40 somewhere in storage, maybe I should sell them!)

Plus a box of film.... B&W, 25 sheets: $30+. Color film, 10 sheets: $45+

Plus a darkroom setup to process the film.... or a lab capable of handling it for you.

Plus an enlargement setup or high quality scanner to work with the images.

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