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Oct 31, 2017 18:25:51   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
No need to throw rocks at me but I for one get tired of reading how great Ansel Adams was. I was in Yosemite last week and walked through his gallery, O.K., he took some nice photos and knew how to work in a dark room but I don't feel the need to bow and kneel. Now put that rock down!


Hi, I would never "throw rocks" at someone for a personal opinion they express nor for questioning what someone else has written. And, of course, there is no need to "bow and kneel" to anyone. I respect AA not only for his technical (which pretty much outshone all photographers of his time) and artistic ability, but also for what he did for photography as an art in general: you may not realize what he did for photography in general and how hard he worked to further photography in so many ways, through teaching, through writing the first how-to books, through being a part of the first photographic art department in a New York museum and for starting the first photography school in San Francisco, for pushing a New York gallery to exhibit his work, for the way he helped other photographers to grow in the art. The list is longer but hopefully what I've written may help you to understand why people feel what they do about him. Many of the photos in the AA gallery are from his negatives but are not his actual hands-on work, they are printed by others for the gallery and thus are made affordable for "the many." Only those that actually contain his signature were printed by him, a portfolio of his work runs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars (something to admire in itself): I've been able to view one of his portfolios and actually hold the photo in my hands to inspect (unframed work) and the quality is incredible, a goal I will never be able to reach. There are many reasons to respect him as an artist and I hope your opinion, over time, may soften a bit as you learn more about him and other past photographers.

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Oct 31, 2017 18:43:37   #
lamontcranston
 
via the lens wrote:
...Please re-read what I wrote, I did not claim to "know him better than the others," only that I studied him a great deal and read up on his life. I am no expert and make no claim to that

Actually, in all truth, you did. Below is the statement you made in your 1st post. Maybe that slipped your mind.

"O', I have a very good idea of who he was and most likely know as much if not more than you do about him, from the smallest detail to the largest and most well-know detail."

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Oct 31, 2017 19:15:29   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
lamontcranston wrote:
Actually, in all truth, you did. Below is the statement you made in your 1st post. Maybe that slipped your mind.

"O', I have a very good idea of who he was and most likely know as much if not more than you do about him, from the smallest detail to the largest and most well-know detail."


Note: "most likely know as much if not more than you do about him," note the words "most likely" indicating maybe, not stating anything as a certainty, as in I most definitely did not state that I am an expert, although it would be fun to be an expert; I most definitely would need a better memory to be an expert and that most likely will not happen.

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Oct 31, 2017 20:02:04   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So Sad to be you.

Oh, I’m quite content - as long as I get my medication.

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Oct 31, 2017 21:23:56   #
joel.photography
 
alf85 wrote:
If they made digital cameras with 1/4 plate size censors, most of us would be as good as him if not better.
Regards, Alfie.


Yes, it's all about the equipment.

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Oct 31, 2017 21:28:18   #
joel.photography
 
treadwl wrote:
Now I am ashamed of myself for stooping to this level of comment. I am sorry.

Larry


It's not like you told him what an idiot he is. You just stated the facts.

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Oct 31, 2017 23:18:03   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Not casting any stones. His personal life was no different than half the people I know. When you are on the internet there is no privacy. That's just the way it works. I don't particularly care about my privacy, but no one cares about my privacy either. I'm not a public figure or a celebrity.
Rich1939 wrote:
"Regarding his personal life, that's also open to everyone"
Why is that? We scream our heads off about privacy but because a person is famous for one aspect of his life, his entire life is also public domain? Why stop at the famous then? Should we make everybody's entire life public? There is none among us qualified to cast that first stone

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Nov 1, 2017 00:38:18   #
PatM Loc: Rocky Mount Mo.
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Hmm.
Know them both well by their work but, I don't get the tie



I guess my thought was that L. L. Put into print words that vividly describe the panoply of landscapes, lifestyles and living conditions that have existed in this country albeit through fictional characters and stories one could close their eyes and see these subjects in their minds as if you might be there. L. L. visited most of the lands he wrote about.
Whereas A. A. brought many of the subjects spoken of in L. L’s. stories throughout the country to life in his works as well. Maybe the reverse can be said for L. L. My thought is that the two compliment one another. One in one media the other in another. They lived in very much the same period of time and I would surmise must have had some knowledge of the other. A. A. had been entrusted by the U. S. Gov. to record on film the Country’s National Park System. These grand vistas and scenes are interwoven throughout L. L’s writing.
So many of my analogies are understandable to me alone and my explanations confusing. And now you must be even more cornfused. But hey. “That’s Just Me”
Have a nice Day!!! 😎🇺🇸

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Nov 1, 2017 07:02:59   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
treadwl wrote:
So SORRY folks. I never get into this type of a discussion but your comment tripped me over the top. Have you ever looked at the stuff posted on this or any other photographic site??? Most of these folks couldn't ever approach Ansel's quality of work even if he was standing at their side. The comment from you quoted above just shows your lack of knowledge and character. The man was a true master. He inspires, but I have not seen his equal (maybe Clyde Butcher) and I have looked. Does it really hurt to give him the credit he deserves?




Now I am ashamed of myself for stooping to this level of comment. I am sorry.


Larry
So SORRY folks. I never get into this type of a d... (show quote)

Don't be ashamed..i agree with you 100%.

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Nov 1, 2017 07:42:08   #
excaliburgc Loc: Daytona Beach Florida
 
Imagine carrying that old large format camera,tripod extra lens and dry then wet plates and developing fluids up them mountains. His legs and back was as strong as his will and heart.

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Nov 2, 2017 11:38:00   #
hiker60 Loc: Northern Idaho
 
Ansel Adams had many important attributes, but I believe his most significant was taking the time and sharing his photographic skills with others.

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Nov 2, 2017 12:03:51   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Rich1939 wrote:
"Regarding his personal life, that's also open to everyone".... Should we make everybody's entire life public?


That's what Facebook is for!

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Nov 2, 2017 12:18:57   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
lamontcranston wrote:
Simply click on the user's name that you want to ignore and scroll down about 4 lines. There you will see an option to "Add To Ignore List". Click on it. It works wonders. You will never have to see that user's posts ever again and you will enjoy your time on the forum much more.


THANKS!!!

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Nov 2, 2017 15:14:48   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
rydabyk wrote:
THANKS!!!


As I pointed out, the “ignore” feature doesn’t work like that. The only thing it does is it prevents them from posting in your threads. Otherwise you will see their posts in other threads. In fact you can reply to each other.

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Nov 2, 2017 15:19:15   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
tdekany wrote:
As I pointed out, the “ignore” feature doesn’t work like that. The only thing it does is it prevents them from posting in your threads. Otherwise you will see their posts in other threads. In fact you can reply to each other.

IF, you start your reading with "Newest Topics" any thread started by an ignored person won't be shown.

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