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Oct 2, 2017 18:21:40   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
I just picked up the infamous D850 from samys I have lbeen ooking forward to using this beast on fall colors.
It took me a day or so to realize how tight the lens mount actually was, well it is at least 2x tighter then d810 ever was and makes a slight grinding noise on all my lenses.
Then after reading on the internet that didgloyd had found that some hard stop lenses will not focus to infinity. So I decided to test out my zeiss lenses on night sky stars wide open and found the that at wide open I could not get two of my lenses to focus at infinity? And the others where super close but just barely focused.
Some may ask why would anyone need to focus to infinity wide open? Only reason I do is for widescape Astro, and then this becomes an issue. Even so the tight lens mount is enough for me to return it.
I feel quality control with most things these days is lackluster at best! Be it cameras, lenses, or anything.
out of the four zeiss lenses I bought, 2 were broken. I still need to send one in. Never have I had an issue with Nikon lenses. And this is the first camera I have ever had a problem with,
The old saying you get what you pay for is a bit out dated for me.

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Oct 2, 2017 18:31:06   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
karno wrote:
I just picked up the infamous D850 from samys I have lbeen ooking forward to using this beast on fall colors.
It took me a day or so to realize how tight the lens mount actually was, well it is at least 2x tighter then d810 ever was and makes a slight grinding noise on all my lenses.
Then after reading on the internet that didgloyd had found that some hard stop lenses will not focus to infinity. So I decided to test out my zeiss lenses on night sky stars wide open and found the that at wide open I could not get two of my lenses to focus at infinity? And the others where super close but just barely focused.
Some may ask why would anyone need to focus to infinity wide open? Only reason I do is for widescape Astro, and then this becomes an issue. Even so the tight lens mount is enough for me to return it.
I feel quality control with most things these days is lackluster at best! Be it cameras, lenses, or anything.
out of the four Zeiss lenses I bought, 2 were broken. I still need to send one in. Never have I had an issue with Nikon lenses. And this is the first camera I have ever had a problem with,
The old saying you get what you pay for is a bit out dated for me.
I just picked up the infamous D850 from samys I ha... (show quote)


I never have problems with my Pentax gear, or Nikon and Schneider View Camera and Enlarging lenses. How does one get bad Carl Zeiss equipment?

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Oct 2, 2017 18:36:57   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I never have problems with my Pentax gear, or Nikon and Schneider View Camera and Enlarging lenses. How does one get bad Carl Zeiss equipment?


Poorly packaged or careless delivery?

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Oct 2, 2017 18:41:22   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
That's too bad. Hopefully they won't be overwhelmed with returns to the point replacements get back logged.

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Oct 2, 2017 18:50:10   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
karno wrote:
I just picked up the infamous D850 from samys I have been looking forward to using this beast on fall colors.
It took me a day or so to realize how tight the lens mount actually was, well it is at least 2x tighter then d810 ever was and makes a slight grinding noise on all my lenses.
Then after reading on the internet that didgloyd had found that some hard stop lenses will not focus to infinity. So I decided to test out my zeiss lenses on night sky stars wide open and found the that at wide open I could not get two of my lenses to focus at infinity? And the others where super close but just barely focused.
Some may ask why would anyone need to focus to infinity wide open? Only reason I do is for widescape Astro, and then this becomes an issue. Even so the tight lens mount is enough for me to return it.
I feel quality control with most things these days is lackluster at best! Be it cameras, lenses, or anything.
out of the four zeiss lenses I bought, 2 were broken. I still need to send one in. Never have I had an issue with Nikon lenses. And this is the first camera I have ever had a problem with,
The old saying you get what you pay for is a bit out dated for me.
I just picked up the infamous D850 from samys I ha... (show quote)
Have you contacted Samys??
This may be an outlier -one of two that slipped through QC

lamiaceae wrote:
How does one get bad Carl Zeiss equipment?
I think his theory is that there is a problem with the mount.

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Oct 2, 2017 19:47:00   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I never have problems with my Pentax gear, or Nikon and Schneider View Camera and Enlarging lenses. How does one get bad Carl Zeiss equipment?

I am not sure how anyone buys a broken zeiss less, but I bought 3 zeiss lenses from Samys a 15 2.8 sluggish iris according to zeiss. A zeiss 21 2.8 super tight mount and a CPU replacement, and then a zeiss 25mm no problems. 1 out of 3 good ones?
The boxes looked a bit smashed on every thing I have bought there.
Then I bought a Nikon d810A excellent.
Then I bought a D 850 box looked dented I bought it anyway but camera mount is tight and grinding? This could be some kind of samys thing. I would not normally buy anything with a dented box but it is a 7 hour drive for me. All shopping I will do someplace else?? Any theories could this be a store thing?

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Oct 2, 2017 19:48:57   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Poorly packaged or careless delivery?

This could be the the case!

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Oct 2, 2017 19:50:40   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
karno wrote:
I am not sure how anyone buys a broken zeiss less, but I bought 3 zeiss lenses from Samys a 15 2.8 sluggish iris according to zeiss. A zeiss 21 2.8 super tight mount and a CPU replacement, and then a zeiss 25mm no problems. 1 out of 3 good ones?
The boxes looked a bit smashed on every thing I have bought there.
Then I bought a Nikon d810A excellent.
Then I bought a D 850 box looked dented I bought it anyway but camera mount is tight and grinding? This could be some kind of samys thing. I would not normally buy anything with a dented box but it is a 7 hour drive for me. All shopping I will do someplace else?? Any theories could this be a store thing?
I am not sure how anyone buys a broken zeiss less,... (show quote)


Do they give you a better price than B&H or Adorama?

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Oct 2, 2017 19:52:09   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
rehess wrote:
I think his theory is that there is a problem with the mount.

I contacted them they are going to return it and give me my money back. There policy is 14 days or less and less the 200 clicks
The box was quite squashed but not to the point that the camera is damaged ? This seems like QC.

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Oct 2, 2017 19:53:04   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Bill_de wrote:
Do they give you a better price than B&H or Adorama?

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Not at all, but the camera was available at samys.

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Oct 2, 2017 19:54:34   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
rehess wrote:
I think his theory is that there is a problem with the mount.

What is an outlier?
Could samys be selling defective gear?

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Oct 2, 2017 20:00:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
karno wrote:
What is an outlier?
Could samys be selling defective gear?

Sorry, it’s a term from statistics.
A outlier is a “sample point” which doesn’t fit the pattern, so I was saying that they might have produced 9998 perfect ones - and then two duds.

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Oct 2, 2017 20:04:47   #
cthahn
 
Why do we have to listen and read about all this garbage. Nothing to do with photography.Just letting everyone know someone has a D850. How many people that claim they have one really don't? Status symbal. The photographer takes the picture, not the camera.

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Oct 2, 2017 20:13:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
cthahn wrote:
Why do we have to listen and read about all this garbage. Nothing to do with photography.Just letting everyone know someone has a D850. How many people that claim they have one really don't? Status symbal. The photographer takes the picture, not the camera.


You don't have to. And you certainly don't have to waste your time complaining about it. But since you do nothing but complain about what everyone else is doing, you obviously have some kind of issues. Where you never picked to play on a team in the playground and haven't gotten over being left out?

Truly a sad case.

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Oct 2, 2017 20:35:33   #
BebuLamar
 
cthahn wrote:
Why do we have to listen and read about all this garbage. Nothing to do with photography.Just letting everyone know someone has a D850. How many people that claim they have one really don't? Status symbal. The photographer takes the picture, not the camera.


You don't have to read if you don't want to. There is no photography without a camera and the OP was talking about camera and lenses. Do you know anyone who claimed to have one that really don't? Not much of a status symbol that is worth to lie about. You can't take the pictures without a camera. A camera could take a pictures by itself.

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