Birding/D500vsFujiXt2: I recently ran and shut both the Nikon D 500 and Fuji XT2. The D 500 with a 200 to 500 NICOR and the Fuji with the 100 to 400 Fuji. I found the burst rate on the...

dyximan

I recently ran and shut both the Nikon D 500 and Fuji XT2. The D 500 with a 200 to 500 NICOR and the Fuji with the 100 to 400 Fuji. I found the burst rate on the Fuji to be limited 20 to 30 frames compared to the D5 30 plus. But found both to have a low percentage of clean clear photos when viewed on my Apple 5K. And found the D 500 to have a much lower IQ and more noise in both still and moving objects. I tried numerous focal points and areas. My question is have any of the hogs tried both cameras and or had similar experiences.

Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England

dyximan wrote:

I recently ran and shut both the Nikon D 500 and F... (show quote)

I normally achieve excellent results from my D500 for both perched birds and birds in flight. You haven't mentioned your ISO/shutter speed/aperture in your post.

CO

I have a D500 and have been very impressed with its IQ and autofocus. You have to take a good look at the camera settings. You might want to check menu items a1: AF-C Priority Selection and a2: AF-S Priority Selection. Those can be set to release or focus. Can you post some photos? Check the store original box when you upload.

dyximan

CO wrote:

I have a D500 and have been very impressed with its IQ and autofocus. You have to take a good look at the camera settings. You might want to check menu items a1: AF-C Priority Selection and a2: AF-S Priority Selection. Those can be set to release or focus. Can you post some photos? Check the store original box when you upload.

thank you I want to try and upload some photos. But I did go with focus, I went manual Aperture priority and shutter priority, I tried to shoot at 1/8000 of a second most of the time IISOup to 8000 but no matter what it seemed that I would get movement in the background of the photo and the birds never seem to be in focus one out of 20 maybe even stationary but I would get a lot of blur in the field behind. I understand this is a great camera for wildlife and have to assume it was me. But I made numerous adjustments to get the exposure plus or minus and no matter what and have a lip bleed the birds were out of focus compared to my other photos from my D 5300 and the rented XT2. I felt I got less shots but higher-quality with my D 5300. But I understand I will have to post so that people can see what I'm talking about.

dyximan

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thank you I want to try and upload some photos. Bu... (show quote)

I forgot to mention I was primarily using the NICOR 200 to 500, and would try to shoot anywhere from 2 to 500 but would back it off into the 400 just to see if I was too long. And even when I used the 18 to 300 to shoot architecture in the city over the weekend those two were not clear. Again I would have to assume it was me but don't understand how the less expensive simpler D 5300 took much better photos and I had a much higher IQ in the same hands of the operator me

teleice

Are you using the same lens on both cameras? Different lenses will produce different results.
Have tried calibrating the camera with the lens using an angled ruler? I purchased a brand new Sigma 24-35mm f/2, and could not read anything on the calibration ruler until I set the AF-Fine Tune to +10, and it finally took a +20 adjustment to calibrate it. There was nothing wrong with the camera.

dyximan

teleice wrote:

Are you using the same lens on both cameras? Different lenses will produce different results.
Have tried calibrating the camera with the lens using an angled ruler? I purchased a brand new Sigma 24-35mm f/2, and could not read anything on the calibration ruler until I set the AF-Fine Tune to +10, and it finally took a +20 adjustment to calibrate it. There was nothing wrong with the camera.

I have heard of the auto fine tune but never heard of the ruler of which you speak. This is a rental camera as my original D 5300 was stolen and I foolishly assumed that it would be calibrated and work properly when I received it. I'm sure there is no easy explanation as to how to do this perhaps a YouTube video you could suggest. And I'm using the NICOR only on the Nikon. When I rented the Fuji two weeks ago I used a Fuji lens. And I'm fully aware there's probably nothing wrong with the camera but the person behind it but I thought perhaps there might of been a lens issue. But the 18 to 300 lens that I rented with this package produces the same results so I'm almost certain it's the operator and/or the calibration but ultimately my responsibility. And thank you for your help I'll look at trying to calibrate or find out how to do so

Bill_de Loc: US

What ISO are you using.

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dyximan

Bill_de wrote:

What ISO are you using.

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I shot and ISO anywhere from 100 to 10,000, shutter anywhere from one 1/60 to 1/ 8000 Aperture 4.5 to 16. And anywhere in between exposure meter centered or plus or minus on any given shot one or two stops. I called balances the company I rented it from there going to evaluate. Because this happen not only with the 200 to 500 lens but the 18 to 300. I shot single CL CH 15 or 53 focal points , spot, center weighted, an wide

CO

dyximan wrote:

I forgot to mention I was primarily using the NICOR 200 to 500, and would try to shoot anywhere from 2 to 500 but would back it off into the 400 just to see if I was too long. And even when I used the 18 to 300 to shoot architecture in the city over the weekend those two were not clear. Again I would have to assume it was me but don't understand how the less expensive simpler D 5300 took much better photos and I had a much higher IQ in the same hands of the operator me

Did you check to make sure that VR is switched on?

The D500 has an automatic AF fine tuning feature. No target is needed to perform the fine tuning.

There's a quick test you can do to see if the camera/lens combination needs AF fine tuning. When using the viewfinder, the camera is using its phase detection autofocus. Phase detection is fast but error prone. When using live view mode, the camera is using its contrast detection autofocus. There are no errors with contrast detection autofocus. The camera adjusts the focus until it achieves the highest contrast at the sensor. Compare photos taken with both modes.

Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio

Check out my D500 review at the link below. Lots of tack sharp example shots as well as recommended BIF settings. (Scroll down past the video for the settings)

https://backcountrygallery.com/nikon-d500-review/

martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

How can you compare cameras when your Not an Experienced Photographer.

dyximan wrote:

thank you I want to try and upload some photos. Bu... (show quote)

dyximan

martinfisherphoto wrote:

How can you compare cameras when your Not an Experienced Photographer.

Define experienced

dyximan

martinfisherphoto wrote:

How can you compare cameras when your Not an Experienced Photographer.

But also I believe if I take each camera and put it on their program mode and auto focus and shoot virtually identical subjects stationary or otherwise I should achieve basically the same affect or quality from that particular brand. And if the 60,000+ clicks and images on the D 5300 are relatively good and the 4000+ clicks on the XT two are relatively good yet the 4000+ clicks on the D 500 are relatively all poor. While using multiple lenses on each what would an experienced and or inexperienced rational individual deduce from that

martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

An experience photographer would know in 15 or 20 minutes (not 4000 shots later) if it's the lack of light, the shutter speed, aperture, ISO level, the camera or lens that is effecting the out of focus photos. You have no grasp on or how to apply the exposure triangle, nor understand DOF, or even the effects of ISO. I was only Making an observation. It takes an experience photographer to evaluate a camera and lens. As far as I know the rented camera and lens could have been dropped and damaged before you rented it. The fact that you tried every possible setting and then some to see if you could acquire a sharp photograph speaks for it's self.

dyximan wrote:

Define experienced