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Typical FF DSLRs are nearly 6 inches wide and 2lbs in weight. Why?
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Sep 30, 2017 03:31:46   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
APS-C cameras are typically just shy of 1lb, and usually around 5.2" or so. Why is there such an enormous difference?

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Sep 30, 2017 03:39:43   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
ChrisT wrote:
APS-C cameras are typically just shy of 1lb, and usually around 5.2" or so. Why is there such an enormous difference?

Full frame sensors are typically about 1 1/2 times larger than APS-C sensors ... why?

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Sep 30, 2017 03:42:40   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
ChrisT wrote:
APS-C cameras are typically just shy of 1lb, and usually around 5.2" or so. Why is there such an enormous difference?


In the Canon range, and a similar vintage the difference is not all that great. See the specs from a Canon 5D (which I own) and and a Canon 20D

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d

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Sep 30, 2017 03:49:31   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Leitz wrote:
Full frame sensors are typically about 1 1/2 times larger than APS-C sensors ... why?


Leitz ... are you trying to tell me the larger sensor tacks on another whole pound? ... Come off it, Mate ....

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Sep 30, 2017 03:50:58   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
In the Canon range, and a similar vintage the difference is not all that great. See the specs from a Canon 5D (which I own) and and a Canon 20D

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d


Yes ... but this is a reference to the current models - like the D5, etc. ....

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Sep 30, 2017 03:55:45   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
ChrisT wrote:
Leitz ... are you trying to tell me the larger sensor tacks on another whole pound? ... Come off it, Mate ....

Are you trying to tell me that a full-frame sensor will fit into an APS-C body?

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Sep 30, 2017 03:57:59   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ChrisT wrote:
APS-C cameras are typically just shy of 1lb, and usually around 5.2" or so. Why is there such an enormous difference?


Some of it is the larger size of the sensor which needs a bigger body for the lens to mount far enough from the sensor to throw an image of the larger size.

Part of the rest is that most full frame cameras are higher end with more controls etc and you need a bigger body to fit all that in, it takes a bigger body with more room to put in manual controls, buttons, dials etc for features than to put those features in the menus - advanced photographers and most pros want controls instead of playing "read the menu". The bodies are usually also built more rugged and weather sealed. That adds weight and size - metal body shell vs plastic body shell.

Some of the higher end APS-C cameras are as big or bigger than some of the FF cameras. My 7DII (advanced level action/sports APS-C constructed to take rough conditions/weather) is bigger and heavier than my 6D (beginner level FF). And both of them are bigger than my daughter's T2i which in turn is bigger than an SL1 (designed to be small, it is one of that camera's major selling points (and its replacement the SL2).

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Sep 30, 2017 04:00:51   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Leitz wrote:
Are you trying to tell me that a full-frame sensor will fit into an APS-C body?


This may surprise you, but some manufacturers use the same body, for both size sensors ....

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Sep 30, 2017 04:05:14   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
ChrisT wrote:
Yes ... but this is a reference to the current models - like the D5, etc. ....


The Canon 6D II and Canon 80D (both current models) are also very simiar in size.

With the Nikon D5 (and I am not a Nikon shooter) - More controls (vertical handgrip), dual card slots, and I suspect a much bigger battery.

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Sep 30, 2017 04:06:21   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
robertjerl wrote:
Some of it is the larger size of the sensor which needs a bigger body for the lens to mount far enough from the sensor to throw an image of the larger size.

Part of the rest is that most full frame cameras are higher end with more controls etc and you need a bigger body to fit all that in, it takes a bigger body with more room to put in manual controls, buttons, dials etc for features than to put those features in the menus - advanced photographers and most pros want controls instead of playing "read the menu". The bodies are usually also built more rugged and weather sealed. That adds weight and size - metal body shell vs plastic body shell.

Some of the higher end APS-C cameras are as big or bigger than some of the FF cameras. My 7DII (advanced level action/sports APS-C constructed to take rough conditions/weather) is bigger and heavier than my 6D (beginner level FF). And both of them are bigger than my daughter's T2i which in turn is bigger than an SL1 (designed to be small, it is one of that camera's major selling points (and its replacement the SL2).
Some of it is the larger size of the sensor which ... (show quote)


Robert ... sorry to tell you this, but Canon added the fully articulating screen to the SL2 - making it both bigger and heavier.

My 60D is enormous, compared to my two Rebels, and the Nikons, Sonys and Pentax I have. The 70D was reduced in size, somewhat, and the 80D too, but both of the later models have so much more packed in them than the earlier model. So, that proves the more advances we make in technology, does not necessarily mean making everything bigger. But the latest top-tier DSLRs - belie that ...

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Sep 30, 2017 04:08:29   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
The Canon 6D II and Canon 80D (both current models) are also very simiar in size.

With the Nikon D5 (and I am not a Nikon shooter) - More controls (vertical handgrip), dual card slots, and I suspect a much bigger battery.


Oh, right ... dual card slots ... my D7000 and D7100 both have that ... doesn't add any weight ... come off it, Mate ...

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Sep 30, 2017 04:10:51   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
ChrisT wrote:
This may surprise you, but some manufacturers use the same body, for both size sensors ....

The very same body?? Yes, that would indeed surprise me.

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Sep 30, 2017 04:15:26   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Leitz wrote:
The very same body?? Yes, that would indeed surprise me.


Yes, I know, Leitz ... it surprised me, too ... check them out over at Camera Decision ....

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Sep 30, 2017 04:19:41   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
ChrisT wrote:
APS-C cameras are typically just shy of 1lb, and usually around 5.2" or so. Why is there such an enormous difference?


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From reading your (many) previous posts, it has not deterred you from buying almost everything that comes off the production-line.

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Sep 30, 2017 04:44:27   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
ChrisT wrote:
Yes, I know, Leitz ... it surprised me, too ... check them out over at Camera Decision ....

If the full frame is as much heavier as you say, there obviously has to be some differences in the two bodies to account for it.

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