KGOldWolf

Bear , you're kidding yourself. Japan is scared s**tless because Kim is tossing rockets over their country and they are the only nation ever to suffer a nuclear attack. Remember the shadows burned into the concrete in Hiroshima? The Japanese bodies were vaporized in the process.

China says they agree with the sanctions but are covertly supplying the technology and supplies to advance the NK weapons program... so IS Russia. It's a "win win" for them.

Bear, it's worse than you think it is, it really is.

richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI

N Korea is a threat to everyone in that part of the world. I don't think their stupid enough to start a war with the US and if China and Russia wanted them destroyed I would think they could do that in one afternoon and wouldn't need help from anyone else. Maybe people were upset about his calling that fool "rocket man" and saying we would destroy North Korea but I loved it. Trump isn't a politician, he says what he means and maybe that's hard for some people to accept.

Rich

KGOldWolf

Rich - regarding Kim being stupid, I agree he's not. He's homicidal not suicidal; the issue is when does he back off? and, at what cost to us? Do you know international polls consider the US to be a greater threat to world peace than NK? Most countries think we're the bad actor because we're bigger and already engaged in a shooting war and threatening both Iran and Venezuala while preaching respect for sovereignty and respect for self-determination. We're being viewed as hypocrites where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Being the strongest military in the world, that inconsistency is pretty scary to other countries.

richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI

We still owe Iran an ass kicking from that bombing of the marine barracks in Lebonan back in the eighties and their use of gunboats to hassle our ships just a year or two ago near Iran. Didn't believe my eyes when Odumbo did nothing and allowed it to continue. Add to that taking the 10 navy sailors and keeping them for a time before they were released. Wonder how many planes full of money they got for that. Doing nothing to these rogue nations just leads to more and bigger problems, look at Germany in the 1930's.

Rich

KGOldWolf

Rich, why do you think it's partisan? When the Marines' quarters in Lebanon, what did Regan do? (And I liked Regan). He shelled the area from battleships well offshore. He didn't do anything more.

We've been too nice for too long but let's be smart about how we "convince" our enemies not to try and take advantage of us.

"Hunters don't beat drums when hunting tigers".... silent actions are better than loud proclamations.

Let's be smart, not loud mouthed bullies...

GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA

Soba1, thanks for the post. Trump's speech was an embarrassment. Does it really help to alienate our allies, to engage in a pissing contest with Kim Jong Un, and to threaten NK with genocide? In the opinion of its signatories the Iran deal is working, why threaten to pull out. Does Trump WANT a war? A war would, at the very least, hamper his real estate empire's expansion. Devastated cities and charred farm lands are not attractive real estate, assuming that any potential buyers are left alive. Trump should contemplate the fate suffered by Benito Mussolini when his supporters turned against him.

Somehow I had imagined that true conservatives weighed their actions carefully, desiring to build on the past, not to destroy the achievements of their predecessors. At least so they seemed in the past. By those criteria Trump and his sort aren't conservatives, they are radicals, or even anarchists - a la Steve Bannon - perfectly willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There is truth on both the "liberal" and "conservative" sides, but the sort of hysterical abuse so often seen on this site gets us no where. Let's hope that at the "exalted" levels of government our leaders don't screech is such fashion. Time for some adult conversation, perhaps even on UglyHedgehog.

The man is WAY out of his depth. I wonder how much of the speech was written by and vetted by putative adults in the Administration, and how much was Trump's flying by the capacious seat of his pants? A little dash of humility would help the Trump Stew. Not likely....

KGOldWolf

GeorgeH - my compliments sir, very well said. Trump and his followers are not true conservatives, at least not in the rational sense of William F. Buckley, George Will, Barry Goldwater et al. They are the angry disenfranchised who have in Trump the voice they've long sought.

The country is far in excess of sustainable debt by the amount of entitlements it pays. We are in such debt to countries who oppose us. China alone holds well over a trillion dollars of treasury notes. That is a far more potent weapon than Kim will ever possess.

Most Americans do not grasp the threat. China holds an amount of our debt that is unsustainable (as a percentage of our GDP). Our only option is to increase inflation without borrowing more money from them. Inflation will lessen the value of their holdings but only on the back of the American common man. The impact of the necessary inflation will be essentially a regressive tax on those who can least afford it.

Most here at UHH don't get that. They're just angry to the extent of "throwing the baby out with the bath water". They don't foresee the terrible consequences resulting from an incompetent populist.

I wish I didn't for, in some cases, ignorance is bliss.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

His predecessor did not accomplish anything positive.
Our allies are grateful to have someone with backbone finally take control of this country and do what is necessary to deal with the threats as opposed to the former 'bow and grovel while paying protection money' type of leader.

KGOldWolf

Bear, I understand your sincerity but I really don't think you truly perceive the threat to our way of life. It's going to change, due in PART to Trump but also dues to polices and entitlements granted in the past 40 years. It not so simple as you would like. I wish it was.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

I understand what has happened over the years to undermine our Constitutional Republic.
This is just the beginning of the reversal of those events.

What would HRC have done ??

richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI

It doesn't really matter what Trump does or says, he will be persecuted in the press and by libs. If you do and say nothing to someone like that fat ass in Korea you'll just more back, it will make them look like the US is afraid of them. I know the media and dems don't like Trump, but I like his attitude and I do feel that that attitude is what got him elected. Do I want to see anyone killed, of course not, especially the brave men and women of our armed forces. But this nut will not shut up until he gets shut up by a cruise missile in his bed, or if some general from his own army kills him.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

Who cares? This guy and I liked it.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/bolton-trumps-u-n-speech-the-best-of-his-presidency/

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

If you tell people the truth and they can't handle it, they ain't yur ally!

KGOldWolf

China, not Russia is the key. Russia is in the catbird's seat - they CAN'T lose but China can. They fear destabilization of NK more than anything else. If the US removes Kim and his leaders, China will be overrun by starving Nirth Koreans.... can't have that! 😤

Sanctions really aren't the solution. The only true option is for China to cross the border and take control of his nuclear options. It is like our last election; no good choices so choose the "least worst"!

richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI

You're not the only one.

Rich