PBS's Vietnam War
Sep 20, 2017 13:57:34 #
ecblackiii wrote:
Read "Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam." [H. R. McMaster] It is an acclaimed, well researched and well documented book. It discloses the inside story of the politics behind decisions made by Kennedy and Johnson, using now declassified official records and memoirs of the senior officials reporting to them.
Yes Quinn do a little research.
Sep 20, 2017 14:05:00 #
Watch the series just to check out historical inaccuracies and to see how censored it might be. Keep in mind he ( Burns ) could not put every detail in there or it would be 180 hours instead of 18 .
Sep 20, 2017 14:38:13 #
bcplimpton
Loc: Southern New Jersey
I have watched the first three and anxiously await the remaining episodes. I was a young man during the "Vietnam Era" and believe that we need to be reminded of what war demands of its participants. That era and the war itself is I.M.H.O. the root cause of the current distrusst of the government.
Sep 20, 2017 15:29:24 #
I've watched the first 3 episodes and will watch the remaining 15. I find it very interesting and very well written and filmed. I'm 71 now and spent 3 years as a Navy Ens/Ltjg/Lt doing shore duty in Washington, D.C. I still remember well the protests at American University (which I saw in person) and Kent State, of course. Fortunately, I never went to Viet Nam, but know a number of guys who did; my hat's off to them.
Sep 20, 2017 15:31:25 #
Scruffy
Loc: North Ridgeville
bcplimpton wrote:
I have watched the first three and anxiously await the remaining episodes. I was a young man during the "Vietnam Era" and believe that we need to be reminded of what war demands of its participants. That era and the war itself is I.M.H.O. the root cause of the current distrusst of the government.
I find,without trying to sound maudlin, that the footage is a brutal reminder and lesson to all that all govt.'s are to be treated with skepticism. WWI, with the brutality and human sacrifice, served to cure Great Britain yyyyof it's naivete and costs that "patriotism" demanded. I believe the same lessons have been learned by U.S. citizens. I think Ken Burn's series helps to keep skepticism of govt. fresh.
Sep 20, 2017 15:46:28 #
krl & Leo Perez, That what I am talking about, get more light on what was going on. The only way is for people open up and talk, I known that is hard to do for some people to do.
Sep 20, 2017 16:21:10 #
Frayud
Loc: Bethesda,MD
On the PBS "Viet Nam" Watch and weep! We are being fed the same BS now about Afghanistan and the other 'stans. There probably hasn't been a genuinely honest president since Truman though Eisenhower, to his credit, did warn us, to no avail, about the "military-industrial complex". If Russia could not "win" in Afghanistan what makes our great powers that be think what we can. Two adages that seem to be forgotten: Do not invade Russia (read any history of Napolean or Hitler); Do not get into a land war in Asia (watch "Viet Nam".
Sep 20, 2017 16:31:54 #
Sep 20, 2017 16:47:01 #
Take to heart anything you see on PBS in the area of History, especially. You cannot get any more liberal than PBS, so I'm not surprised if they not only leave out a lot but also make quite a bit up to soot their agenda.
Sep 20, 2017 17:48:24 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
Knew someone who was there, but he wasn't there. Some sort of listening post. I am guessing NSA?
Sep 20, 2017 18:37:07 #
Sep 20, 2017 18:58:30 #
canarywood1
Loc: Sarasota,Florida
Every war or so called police action has it's dirt pile, wwII has plenty but one really stands out, the book Victims of Yalta is about 3 million Russians who were forcibly returned to Russia, and to their deaths, by Great Britain and the USA.
Sep 20, 2017 19:58:02 #
Quinn 4 wrote:
SO VERY TRUE. We do not read history, so off to the big sand box in Afghanistan we go.
The real problem is that I think we still need to learn from history and remember the lessons. Those who will not are doomed to repeat it, over and over and over.
Sep 20, 2017 20:22:50 #
If you want to dirt on WWII, How about the USA and English knowing about the death camps, and did none to stop them. How did USA & England known, their were flying over death camps every day and could see what was going on. And with US & England reading the Germans codes, Their known from day to day what was going on. True be known that at the end of war there only survives.
Sirlensalot, I confuse what you are writing about?
Sirlensalot, I confuse what you are writing about?
Sep 20, 2017 20:25:17 #
papa wrote:
The real problem is that I think we still need to learn from history and remember the lessons. Those who will not are doomed to repeat it, over and over and over.
What do you think is going on in the world today? The way I see it is: stupid is as stupid does!
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