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Sep 10, 2017 11:30:17   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
OPINION | ANDREW MANUEL CRESPO, Writing in The Boston Globe

A special prosecutor should challenge Joe Arpaio’s special pardon


We talk a lot in the Trump era about novel constitutional problems, and a lot about special prosecutors. But in the wake of President Trump’s controversial pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, it’s important to talk about both at once, and to ask: Should the US District Court in Phoenix, which found Arpaio guilty of criminal contempt, now appoint a special prosecutor to defend that conviction, in the face of a pardon that might well be unconstitutional?

Arpaio was convicted of violating a court order that directed him to stop arresting Latinos unless he had probable cause that they had committed a crime. The now familiar facts underlying that order — and Arpaio’s flagrant disregard of it — have been powerfully summarized by a law clerk who worked on the case. And given both Arpaio’s misconduct and his prior history (he once bragged about putting immigrants in a “concentration camp”), the pardon — President Trump’s first — has drawn widespread criticism, including from Arizona’s two Republican senators and from the Republican Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Some legal scholars, however, have gone further, advancing the novel argument that the pardon is not only a terrible idea, but also unconstitutional. Courts, the argument goes, exist to protect constitutional rights, which they do by ordering people who are violating those rights to stop. Pardoning someone convicted of violating such an order nullifies the courts’ ability to enforce it, and thus impermissibly threatens the independence of the judiciary, the rule of law, and the underlying constitutional rights themselves.

This argument faces an uphill battle, given that the Supreme Court has held that the president’s pardon power extends to criminal contempt convictions. That case, however, did not involve a public official convicted of disregarding an order that required him to honor civilians’ legal rights. So Arpaio’s case is different. And that raises the possibility that a court might hold Trump’s pardon unconstitutional, given the threat it poses to turn federal courts into “mere boards of arbitration whose judgments and decrees would be only advisory,” something the Supreme Court has also cautioned strongly against.

The potential unconstitutionality of Arpaio’s pardon could explain why the judge overseeing his case has not yet thrown out his conviction, even though the pardon has literally been signed, sealed, and delivered. Rather, the judge has scheduled a hearing for early October to decide what to do next.

And that’s where the question of a special prosecutor comes in. Two groups of lawyers have written to the Department of Justice, urging the prosecutors in Arpaio’s case to tell the court that the president’s pardon is invalid. That letter shows real moxie. But it is also barking up the wrong tree: The Department of Justice works for the president. Indeed, the pardon itself has the big gold seal of the Department of Justice embossed right next to the president’s signature. These prosecutors will not and should not challenge the pardon.

But another prosecutor, from outside the Department of Justice, could challenge it, and thus argue that Arpaio’s conviction should stand. And given the unique nature of criminal contempt cases, the judge overseeing Arpaio’s case has the clear authority to appoint an independent prosecutor to take over here — including a private attorney from outside the government. That is because, unlike all other federal criminal prosecutions, which the executive branch must initiate, contempt prosecutions stem from the judicial branch’s independent power to enforce its orders. Thus, as the Supreme Court has made clear, “courts possess inherent authority to initiate contempt proceedings for disobedience to their orders, authority which necessarily encompasses the ability to appoint a private attorney to prosecute the contempt.”

Ordinarily, courts rely on Justice Department lawyers to handle such prosecutions, as occurred here, with those lawyers successfully securing Arpaio’s conviction. But as courts have explained, the judiciary also appropriately turns to private special prosecutors when the Department of Justice has a conflict of interest seeing a contempt case through. Indeed, when the government declines to press forward, federal rules say that “the court must appoint another attorney to prosecute the contempt.”

Arpaio’s prosecution isn’t over: He hasn’t been sentenced, his conviction hasn’t been set aside, and the judge has set a hearing to decide what to do next. At that hearing, the two lawyers currently on the case — one speaking for Arpaio, the other speaking for the president — will both defend the pardon’s constitutionality. Perhaps they’re right. But this issue is serious enough that the court deserves to hear someone present the argument on the other side, the argument that the pardon is not constitutional. And that requires appointing a special prosecutor who will seek to vindicate the judicial branch’s power to punish those who violate not only our constitutional rights but lawful court orders as well — a power that arguably supersedes the president’s pardon authority when the two conflict.

Fortunately for the court in this case, there is no shortage of qualified attorneys, in private practice or in the legal academy, capable of accepting such an appointment. And fortunately for the rule of law, the court has the power to make it.

Andrew Manuel Crespo is a law professor at Harvard University, specializing in criminal law and criminal procedure. He tweets @AndrewMCrespo.

Emphasis added by Poster.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/09/07/special-prosecutor-should-challenge-joe-arpaio-special-pardon/SWWjrh72kXYiAtSWOCjjYM/story.html?et_rid=524187610&s_campaign=weekinopinion:newsletter

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Sep 11, 2017 08:01:11   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
Twardlow wrote:
OPINION | ANDREW MANUEL CRESPO, Writing in The Boston Globe

A special prosecutor should challenge Joe Arpaio’s special pardon


We talk a lot in the Trump era about novel constitutional problems, and a lot about special prosecutors. But in the wake of President Trump’s controversial pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, it’s important to talk about both at once, and to ask: Should the US District Court in Phoenix, which found Arpaio guilty of criminal contempt, now appoint a special prosecutor to defend that conviction, in the face of a pardon that might well be unconstitutional?

Arpaio was convicted of violating a court order that directed him to stop arresting Latinos unless he had probable cause that they had committed a crime. The now familiar facts underlying that order — and Arpaio’s flagrant disregard of it — have been powerfully summarized by a law clerk who worked on the case. And given both Arpaio’s misconduct and his prior history (he once bragged about putting immigrants in a “concentration camp”), the pardon — President Trump’s first — has drawn widespread criticism, including from Arizona’s two Republican senators and from the Republican Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Some legal scholars, however, have gone further, advancing the novel argument that the pardon is not only a terrible idea, but also unconstitutional. Courts, the argument goes, exist to protect constitutional rights, which they do by ordering people who are violating those rights to stop. Pardoning someone convicted of violating such an order nullifies the courts’ ability to enforce it, and thus impermissibly threatens the independence of the judiciary, the rule of law, and the underlying constitutional rights themselves.

This argument faces an uphill battle, given that the Supreme Court has held that the president’s pardon power extends to criminal contempt convictions. That case, however, did not involve a public official convicted of disregarding an order that required him to honor civilians’ legal rights. So Arpaio’s case is different. And that raises the possibility that a court might hold Trump’s pardon unconstitutional, given the threat it poses to turn federal courts into “mere boards of arbitration whose judgments and decrees would be only advisory,” something the Supreme Court has also cautioned strongly against.

The potential unconstitutionality of Arpaio’s pardon could explain why the judge overseeing his case has not yet thrown out his conviction, even though the pardon has literally been signed, sealed, and delivered. Rather, the judge has scheduled a hearing for early October to decide what to do next.

And that’s where the question of a special prosecutor comes in. Two groups of lawyers have written to the Department of Justice, urging the prosecutors in Arpaio’s case to tell the court that the president’s pardon is invalid. That letter shows real moxie. But it is also barking up the wrong tree: The Department of Justice works for the president. Indeed, the pardon itself has the big gold seal of the Department of Justice embossed right next to the president’s signature. These prosecutors will not and should not challenge the pardon.

But another prosecutor, from outside the Department of Justice, could challenge it, and thus argue that Arpaio’s conviction should stand. And given the unique nature of criminal contempt cases, the judge overseeing Arpaio’s case has the clear authority to appoint an independent prosecutor to take over here — including a private attorney from outside the government. That is because, unlike all other federal criminal prosecutions, which the executive branch must initiate, contempt prosecutions stem from the judicial branch’s independent power to enforce its orders. Thus, as the Supreme Court has made clear, “courts possess inherent authority to initiate contempt proceedings for disobedience to their orders, authority which necessarily encompasses the ability to appoint a private attorney to prosecute the contempt.”

Ordinarily, courts rely on Justice Department lawyers to handle such prosecutions, as occurred here, with those lawyers successfully securing Arpaio’s conviction. But as courts have explained, the judiciary also appropriately turns to private special prosecutors when the Department of Justice has a conflict of interest seeing a contempt case through. Indeed, when the government declines to press forward, federal rules say that “the court must appoint another attorney to prosecute the contempt.”

Arpaio’s prosecution isn’t over: He hasn’t been sentenced, his conviction hasn’t been set aside, and the judge has set a hearing to decide what to do next. At that hearing, the two lawyers currently on the case — one speaking for Arpaio, the other speaking for the president — will both defend the pardon’s constitutionality. Perhaps they’re right. But this issue is serious enough that the court deserves to hear someone present the argument on the other side, the argument that the pardon is not constitutional. And that requires appointing a special prosecutor who will seek to vindicate the judicial branch’s power to punish those who violate not only our constitutional rights but lawful court orders as well — a power that arguably supersedes the president’s pardon authority when the two conflict.

Fortunately for the court in this case, there is no shortage of qualified attorneys, in private practice or in the legal academy, capable of accepting such an appointment. And fortunately for the rule of law, the court has the power to make it.

Andrew Manuel Crespo is a law professor at Harvard University, specializing in criminal law and criminal procedure. He tweets @AndrewMCrespo.

Emphasis added by Poster.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/09/07/special-prosecutor-should-challenge-joe-arpaio-special-pardon/SWWjrh72kXYiAtSWOCjjYM/story.html?et_rid=524187610&s_campaign=weekinopinion:newsletter
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Sep 11, 2017 08:18:48   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor what the issue referred to above is about.

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Sep 11, 2017 08:42:09   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Twardlow wrote:
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor what the issue referred to above is about.
are you kidding... he get's his news right from the source...



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Sep 11, 2017 09:30:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
green wrote:
are you kidding... he get's his news right from the source...

That looks more like Al "Gore".... LOL

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Sep 11, 2017 09:32:31   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Twardlow wrote:
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor what the issue referred to above is about.


What problem do you have for rich's post?
This is an honest question not an attack.

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Sep 11, 2017 09:34:39   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
Twardlow wrote:
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor what the issue referred to above is about.


Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.

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Sep 11, 2017 09:58:14   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Wrangler wrote:
What problem do you have for rich's post?
This is an honest question not an attack.


First of all, Arpaio was one step from the Gestapo--a matter only of degree, not method. His was personal interpretation of facts, above and beyond the protections of the law, targeting an ethnic group without warrant or probability of guilt.

Second, and related, he was in at least triple violation of the Bill of Rights, the most important protector of our rights, in that he arrested without probable cause, he violated due process of law, and performed cruel and unusually punishment.

He was enjoined to cease, but he continued and bragged about it, violating the injunction, exposing him to six months is the slammer.

BTW, Trump's pardon is in direct conflict with the Judicial mandate to protect and enforce the Constitution and duly enacted laws of the land, resulting in a Constitutional conflict between two co-equal branches of government.

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Sep 11, 2017 11:28:37   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Twardlow wrote:
First of all, Arpaio was one step from the Gestapo--a matter only of degree, not method. His was personal interpretation of facts, above and beyond the protections of the law, targeting an ethnic group without warrant or probability of guilt.

Second, and related, he was in at least triple violation of the Bill of Rights, the most important protector of our rights, in that he arrested without probable cause, he violated due process of law, and performed cruel and unusually punishment.

He was enjoined to cease, but he continued and bragged about it, violating the injunction, exposing him to six months is the slammer.

BTW, Trump's pardon is in direct conflict with the Judicial mandate to protect and enforce the Constitution and duly enacted laws of the land, resulting in a Constitutional conflict between two co-equal branches of government.
First of all, Arpaio was one step from the Gestapo... (show quote)


Gosh, I thought illegal aliens were illegal. That is, they broke the law and were subject to arrest.

I also thought that law enforcement officers were supposed to enforce the law.

I thought that judges were sworn to enforce the law and adjudicate, not legislate.

Are you saying that if one doesn't like a law, he/she not only should ignore the law but also should willfully break said law.

The word gestapo is short for Geheime Staatspolize or secret police. Was the Sherrif operating in secret?

If we do away with laws, we will have no crime. That would fix a problem we have currently.

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Sep 11, 2017 11:30:41   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
That looks more like Al "Gore".... LOL
LOL

richosob wrote:
Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
I'm sure you always get the point.

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Sep 11, 2017 11:43:36   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Because of the threat to the independence of the Judiciary, this case must go forward. But because it is so serious, it is apt to take many years which given that Arpaio is 85 he might be dead before the case ends. Once he passes, is there still a case?

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Sep 11, 2017 12:00:39   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
John_F wrote:
Because of the threat to the independence of the Judiciary, this case must go forward. But because it is so serious, it is apt to take many years which given that Arpaio is 85 he might be dead before the case ends. Once he passes, is there still a case?


If a case makes it to the Supreme Court, I think they are ruling on a point of law and not a defendant. Therefore the case would continue but a ruling of a deceased defendant's guilt or innocence would be moot.

I am not 100% certain of this.

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Sep 11, 2017 12:07:00   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
John_F wrote:
Because of the threat to the independence of the Judiciary, this case must go forward. But because it is so serious, it is apt to take many years which given that Arpaio is 85 he might be dead before the case ends. Once he passes, is there still a case?


How does this case raise a "threat to the independence of the judiciary" any more than any other presidential pardon or commutation?

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Sep 11, 2017 12:19:18   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Wrangler wrote:
Gosh, I thought illegal aliens were illegal. That is, they broke the law and were subject to arrest.

I also thought that law enforcement officers were supposed to enforce the law.

I thought that judges were sworn to enforce the law and adjudicate, not legislate.

Are you saying that if one doesn't like a law, he/she not only should ignore the law but also should willfully break said law.

The word gestapo is short for Geheime Staatspolize or secret police. Was the Sherrif operating in secret?

If we do away with laws, we will have no crime. That would fix a problem we have currently.
Gosh, I thought illegal aliens were illegal. That ... (show quote)



Yes, but you can't arrest Legal aiens, then hold them indefinitely to see if they are guilty of anything.

And, first of all, law enforcement officers live by the U.S. Constitution.

Arpaio's policy was to sweep up alien-looking people without probable cause. Throughly illegal and Unconstitutional.

You are jumping the gun, leaping to unfounded conclusions, and rejecting the basic constitutional protections that protect us all.

I don't know whether Arpaio operated in secret, but sweeping up US citizens--and some were--and holding them for long periods, then dropping charges sometime after their citizenship was established ain't the way we do things here, and you wouldn't like it if it happened to you.

And the judges is enforcing the law and the US Contitution by telling Arpaio to follow the Constitution.

"Are you saying that if one doesn't like a law, he/she not only should ignore the law but also should willfully break said law." No, not saying that at all, but that was precisely what Arpaio was doing, against court and constitutional sanctions.

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Sep 11, 2017 12:21:07   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
John_F wrote:
Because of the threat to the independence of the Judiciary, this case must go forward. But because it is so serious, it is apt to take many years which given that Arpaio is 85 he might be dead before the case ends. Once he passes, is there still a case?


The important thing is to establish which authority prevails in the conflict between Executive and Judicial branches.

Only the Supreme Court can rule.

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