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Sep 10, 2017 13:46:07   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Really? Have you paid any attention to South America during the last 10 to 15 years? The movement is also very strong in this country, I am surprised that you are not aware of it, ANTIFA anyone? How about BLM, or the whole move to take power away from the so called "White Establishment" and return it to the people, and then the entire leftward movement of the democrat party.... This country is teetering on the precipice.


I didn't say there weren't scary things happening in the world. I am saying that everything you think is wrong with the world isn't communism.

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Sep 10, 2017 13:59:35   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
thom w wrote:
I didn't say there weren't scary things happening in the world. I am saying that everything you think is wrong with the world isn't communism.
communism replaced nazis as the new boogeyman in the 1950s... in the 1990s, terrorism replaced communism as the current boogyman...

hopefully people can try a bit harder to keep up, but too many have been indoctrinated for life by McCarthy.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:04:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
green wrote:
communism replaced nazis as the new boogeyman in the 1950s... in the 1990s, terrorism replaced communism as the current boogyman...

hopefully people can try a bit harder to keep up, but too many have been indoctrinated for life by McCarthy.


Probably before McCarthy, how else would McCarthy been able to get so much traction. Idaho used to be a fan of both McCarthy and Murrow. I doubt he even grasped the paradox.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:09:08   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
green wrote:
communism replaced nazis as the new boogeyman in the 1950s... in the 1990s, terrorism replaced communism as the current boogyman...

hopefully people can try a bit harder to keep up, but too many have been indoctrinated for life by McCarthy.

The fact is that the goals stated in the Naked Communist are practically the same as the goals of the progressive democrats. Do you see the irony?

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Sep 10, 2017 14:20:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
phcaan wrote:
The fact is that the goals stated in the Naked Communist are practically the same as the goals of the progressive democrats. Do you see the irony?


If they were I probably would. I don't automatically change my beliefs just because some persons I consider unsavory agree with me. I don't automatically change my belief when you agree with me. Do you change your viewpoint if you find me agreeing with you?

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Sep 10, 2017 14:22:55   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
phcaan wrote:
The fact is that the goals stated in the Naked Communist are practically the same as the goals of the progressive democrats. Do you see the irony?
that's not true...

#3 Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of moral strength.haven't heard anyone talk about total disarmament...lots of democratic hawks or we would not have been at war 90% of our existence.

#27 Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social religion". Discredit the Bible * emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a 'religious crutch"
I believe just about anyone running for public office does not discredit the Bible.... even hard-core Muslims like Obama pretend to be Christian.

#30 Discredit the Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man" I have not seen this, provide evidence

#34 Eliminate the House Committee on UN-American Activities. McCarthy abused this committee, now it's part of the judiciaciary committee in the House.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#40 Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#41 Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

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Sep 10, 2017 14:28:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
green wrote:
that's not true...

#3 Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of moral strength.haven't heard anyone talk about total disarmament...lots of democratic hawks or we would not have been at war 90% of our existence.

#27 Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social religion". Discredit the Bible * emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a 'religious crutch"
I believe just about anyone running for public office does not discredit the Bible.... even hard-core Muslims like Obama pretend to be Christian.

#30 Discredit the Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man" I have not seen this, provide evidence

#34 Eliminate the House Committee on UN-American Activities. McCarthy abused this committee, now it's part of the judiciaciary committee in the House.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#40 Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#41 Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence
that's not true... br br b #3 Develop the illusi... (show quote)


Careful with 27. You are going to reinforce his already held belief.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:31:19   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
thom w wrote:
Careful with 27. You are going to reinforce his already held belief.
so i pander a little

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Sep 10, 2017 14:52:38   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
thom w wrote:
If they were I probably would. I don't automatically change my beliefs just because some persons I consider unsavory agree with me. I don't automatically change my belief when you agree with me. Do you change your viewpoint if you find me agreeing with you?

No I don't change my viewpoint if I find you agreeing with me, what I do find telling is that you agree with the goals of the communist party written in 1958. Not surprising, but rather expected.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:55:32   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
green wrote:
that's not true...

#3 Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of moral strength.haven't heard anyone talk about total disarmament...lots of democratic hawks or we would not have been at war 90% of our existence.

#27 Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social religion". Discredit the Bible * emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a 'religious crutch"
I believe just about anyone running for public office does not discredit the Bible.... even hard-core Muslims like Obama pretend to be Christian.

#30 Discredit the Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man" I have not seen this, provide evidence

#34 Eliminate the House Committee on UN-American Activities. McCarthy abused this committee, now it's part of the judiciaciary committee in the House.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#40 Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence

#41 Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents Whaaaaaa? I have not seen this, provide evidence
that's not true... br br b #3 Develop the illusi... (show quote)

Sorry green, I can't help what you either can't or refuse to see, and I don't feel it is worth my time to attempt to bring to light what you would refuse to see.
Like thom just seeing what you defend is really all that needs to be said.

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Sep 10, 2017 15:15:50   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
And then there is this....
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obamas-cloward-piven-weapon-of-mass-destruction/

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Sep 10, 2017 15:20:37   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 

Just another day at the border, thanks Barack.

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Sep 10, 2017 15:43:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
phcaan wrote:
No I don't change my viewpoint if I find you agreeing with me, what I do find telling is that you agree with the goals of the communist party written in 1958. Not surprising, but rather expected.


If you go through any 2 thinking persons beliefs you will likely find points of agreement even if for the most part their beliefs are opposite.

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Sep 10, 2017 17:30:55   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
thom w wrote:
If you go through any 2 thinking persons beliefs you will likely find points of agreement even if for the most part their beliefs are opposite.


Have a nice day comrade.

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Sep 10, 2017 18:12:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
phcaan wrote:
No I don't change my viewpoint if I find you agreeing with me, what I do find telling is that you agree with the goals of the communist party written in 1958. Not surprising, but rather expected.


You aren't required to agree with me. I'm not required to agree with you. I believe you don't see things objectively. I'm guessing you may feel the same about me. You can probably find some pretty horrible people who agree with you on some things. It really doesn't affect the value of your ideas.

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