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Republicans hate Obamacare but like most of what it does
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Jun 27, 2012 06:49:49   #
Kalskag2
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/06/26/poll-republicans-hate-obamacare-but-like-most-of-what-it-does/

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Jun 27, 2012 07:38:59   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
This article hits the nail on the head. I think if it wasn't that they disliked the President so much this would have been supported on both sides of the aisle.
The other untold story is that the real winners on the Affordable Care Act are the Insurance Companies who stand to make a fortune through the mandate.
But, after all is said and done today will be the day that the Supreme Court announces their decision on the case so let's see where they land.
After yesterdays decision on striking down most of the Arizona law there may actually be some hope for them doing the right thing and saving this law.

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Jun 27, 2012 18:03:36   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Hey! Stop introducing facts! No fair!

Cheers,

R.

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Jun 27, 2012 18:39:31   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
I'm a Republican and I don't agree with ANYTHING in Obamacare. And the majority of Republicans agree with me.
This is a Washington Post article. That in itself explains it all.

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Jun 27, 2012 18:55:06   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
I'm independent and don't like any part of it. Mostly because the government is involved as they have to business being there and forcing me to be part of it.
And as far as Obama goes, that's another agenda to rid us of him.

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Jun 27, 2012 21:17:19   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Frank T wrote:
This article hits the nail on the head. I think if it wasn't that they disliked the President so much this would have been supported on both sides of the aisle.
The other untold story is that the real winners on the Affordable Care Act are the Insurance Companies who stand to make a fortune through the mandate.
But, after all is said and done today will be the day that the Supreme Court announces their decision on the case so let's see where they land.
After yesterdays decision on striking down most of the Arizona law there may actually be some hope for them doing the right thing and saving this law.
This article hits the nail on the head. I think i... (show quote)


If Obama found a cure for cancer, the republicans would vote against it.

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Jun 27, 2012 21:58:18   #
Kalskag2
 
gym wrote:
I'm a Republican and I don't agree with ANYTHING in Obamacare. And the majority of Republicans agree with me.
This is a Washington Post article. That in itself explains it all.


It wasn't a Washington Post Poll. You say that a majority of Republicans agree with you. I'm curious--what is the basis for that statement? Has Fox News done a fair and unbiased poll?

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Jun 28, 2012 07:01:09   #
LARRYR. Loc: Saint Martinville, La.
 
There we go again with FOX NEWS polling, look
up FOX'S rating and as a Republican you can count
me in as (1) against Obamacare, and as for finding
a cure for cancer, come November the Republican will come
up with a cure and the Democrates will vote against it
I'm sure.

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Jun 28, 2012 07:04:49   #
dawgtired Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
gym wrote:
I'm a Republican and I don't agree with ANYTHING in Obamacare. And the majority of Republicans agree with me.
This is a Washington Post article. That in itself explains it all.


This guy is the worst President we've had since Jimmy Carter. His administration is a joke. I cannot believe anyone would even consider re-electing him.

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Jun 28, 2012 07:09:48   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Mac wrote:
Frank T wrote:
This article hits the nail on the head. I think if it wasn't that they disliked the President so much this would have been supported on both sides of the aisle.
The other untold story is that the real winners on the Affordable Care Act are the Insurance Companies who stand to make a fortune through the mandate.
But, after all is said and done today will be the day that the Supreme Court announces their decision on the case so let's see where they land.
After yesterdays decision on striking down most of the Arizona law there may actually be some hope for them doing the right thing and saving this law.
This article hits the nail on the head. I think i... (show quote)


If Obama found a cure for cancer, the republicans would vote against it.
quote=Frank T This article hits the nail on the h... (show quote)


The cure will come in Nov when we vote BO and his regime out.
Then he can go find another country to rule into poverty.

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Jun 28, 2012 07:34:05   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
Frank T wrote:
This article hits the nail on the head. I think if it wasn't that they disliked the President so much this would have been supported on both sides of the aisle.
The other untold story is that the real winners on the Affordable Care Act are the Insurance Companies who stand to make a fortune through the mandate.
But, after all is said and done today will be the day that the Supreme Court announces their decision on the case so let's see where they land.
After yesterdays decision on striking down most of the Arizona law there may actually be some hope for them doing the right thing and saving this law.
This article hits the nail on the head. I think i... (show quote)


First, I'm not a repub I'm a libertarian which means I believe the govt should do what they are allowed to do in the us. Constitution. Nothing more or less.

I do not like the bill as a whole but agree with some of what is in it. For example, I don't believe insurance cos should be allowed to cancel someone if they get sick. But I don't see the authority of the fed govt to make such a law so I disagree with that provision of federal law. States can make such a law and I would not be against them. But making such law is not consistent with article I section 8. I would dare say none of the bill is consistent with that section. By the 10th amendment, states can do that though.

The prob is that because of our two party system, the other side will grandstand with speeches in congress but still vote to find it. We've seen that since the 1800s. The iraq war....Dems initially supported it but then gave speeches on the floor about how much they hated it but still voted for the spending bills that paid for it. The Repubs do the same thing. Wake up and realize that regardless of whether YOU consider yourself a dem or repub or the people you vote for, they will do what they want to keep themselves in power. If that means grandstanding to make a point then so be it. Spare me the rhetoric.

But back to the poll. Did they ask questions on the more controversial parts or just the parts that most people would favor? What about forcing insurance cos to sell a product at a price the govt approves? Think birth control. That was a clear payback to the various ultra liberal feminist groups.

What about requiring people to buy a private product just because they happen to live in this country? Why should I be forced to buy a policy? What if I decided that I am in great health and it makes more financial sense for me to pay out of pocket the few times I get sick than to pay a monthly tax for a product I don't use? Why am I not allowed to make the decision on what's best for me? What if I don't want the govt to control when or where I can get healthcare or what type of care I can get? The fed govt is by and large a corrupt and inept organization that couldn't do anything efficiently if it tried. Why would I want to trust my healthcare to a group such as that? And then there's the cost. And then there's the slippery slope where the govt can now control every aspect of my life because they "have to" pay for my healthcare. Are they going to mOnitor my caloric intake and fine me if it exceeds some arbitrary threshold or if my exercise does not exceed a certain threshold?

I simply do not want the govt to have ANY hand in healthcare at ANY level.

By and large, conservatives don't hate Obama - the person - They hate his policies. That is a key point that escapes many liberals because they are either too dumb to know the difference or just choose to ignore it.

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Jun 28, 2012 09:08:57   #
Grey Barn Studio Loc: Leroy OH
 
Tim, couldn't have said it better myself.

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Jun 28, 2012 09:24:24   #
Fat Gregory Loc: Southern New Jersey
 
BO's Administration is anything but funny. This collection of Radicals is frightening and their collective actions damaging the Republic have been masked by OCare sucking the oxygen out of the room. As the other travesties come to light BO will go down in history as the President that put the greatest experiment in human freedom at risk of complete collapse socially, financially and politically.

No I'm not a Republican or a Democrat... I'm an American!

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Jun 28, 2012 09:26:55   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
Just remember: freedom and equality are sworn enemies. You can't have both an you have to decide which one you prefer.

Capitalism tips the scales towards freedom. Socialism tips the scales towards equality. The more we try and make everyone equal, the more freedom we suck from people and the more socialist our republic becomes. Taking over auto companies and arbitrarily handing control to the unions, mandating requirements on pay & profits for others, and universal healthcare are all steps towards making our country socialist. Maybe not Mao socialism but perhaps more European socialism. But it's still socialism.

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Jun 28, 2012 09:42:16   #
Suzi529 Loc: VirginiaBeach, Virginia
 
TimS,
Very well said. I totally agree with you.
Oh yea, I like the president, he is a very likable guy, just don't agree with his policies.

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